Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abby Barry Bergman


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:38, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Abby Barry Bergman

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Doesn't meet WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 06:47, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Weak delete. I found three reviews, but they only cover one coauthored book. I don't think it's quite enough for WP:AUTHOR and there seems to be little else. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:46, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * could this article be redirected to one about the book which seems to meet WP:NBOOK? TJMSmith (talk) 12:34, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If some non-COI editor cares enough about the subject to make an article about the book, sure. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:10, 28 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete – I can't find anything that would make her or her book pass GNG. Missvain (talk) 16:56, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Per WP:AUTHOR "1. The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors." - the work is cited in Teaching Green, The New Teaching Elementary Science, Science Curriculum and The greenhouse-effect experiment (behind a paywall but Google says they cite Jacobson & Bergman Science for Children). I have also added two sources to the article. The book source is more substantial with the NYT source being a trivial mention in the obituary of his co-author. As a side note, the article text says he is male but the article is claimed by Wikiproject Women Writers - I am guessing that someone got a little confused when they saw the name Abby (unless it is the text that is wrong, or the subject has had a change in gender). From Hill To Shore (talk) 02:12, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Another trawl looking for sources reveals that his 1998 work was also cited in "No limits to teach(er)" but how?, The Duties, Responsibilities, and Challenges of Opening a New Elementary School and Elementary Principals' Perspectives on Opening New Schools in a Large Urban School District, among others. I am not sure how "wide" the "widely cited by peers" has to be for WP:AUTHOR but he does get a lot of mentions. From Hill To Shore (talk) 20:53, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Changing to Weak delete. While I think that he barely scrapes over the bar of notability, two exhaustive searches for online sources give little detail, even from trivial mentions. There is so little information that we are probably close to repeating the "about the author" section of his own book. For me this is a case of an article that would be useful to Wikipedia, if we had the reliable sources to take us beyond a list of his works. From Hill To Shore (talk) 00:09, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 15:13, 4 February 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 15:56, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete, or redirect to article on the book. I also searched for reviews of other books without luck, although likely I was not as careful as David Eppstein.  As far as citations, he has two pubs with about 40 citations each, which doesn't convince me. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 16:32, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete The sources are weak for WP:GNG and the books published haven't met WP:NAUTHOR, even with the identification of additional works. Alansohn (talk) 23:22, 18 February 2020 (UTC)


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