Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abc home and carpet

Originally listed for speedy deletion but does not meet the criteria. Entry for a carpet shop that for someone who's not been to New York appears non-notable. Can anyone verify its notability or should this page be deleted? -- Graham &#9786; | Talk 08:10, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: Ick. Advertising.  As for the truth, let's put it this way: the article lists a street corner (19th & Broadway) and says that this is one of the two leading stores there (i.e. on that corner).  ABC (n.b. title is wrong) Carpet, as it is usually called, is successful.  They advertise on the TV quite a bit.  That said, they're indistinguishable from Empire Carpet, from any area's local carpet king.  This is advertising, and the company hasn't much to recommend it except for selling carpets. Geogre 13:39, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Advert.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 18:47, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - advert - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  22:16, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Neutral (but Geogre is correct about the name; if kept, it should be moved to ABC Carpet & Home). I don't think an article can be called "advertising" just because it's about a business.  We need more articles on notable businesses, and this article's author appears to have no connection with the store.  Is it notable?  The biggest carpet store in the world would be notable for that reason, but I'm not sure whether ABC is really the biggest.  (It might be -- it's huge.)  In a quick tour of the store's website, I didn't even find that claim made there.  I would vote to keep if there were some support for that point. JamesMLane 04:33, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * N.b. the article has improved during its time on VfD, with more grand claims made for the store. When it was listed (see the history), it was one line and then straight to the website, so that's why folks were calling it a pure ad.  It has not improved enough for me to change my vote, I'm afraid.  It is a successful business, but I see too many problems with the present article (name change and the likelihood of languishing without being filled out, even if sent to Clean Up). Geogre 20:05, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)