Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdul Jabbar Al Rifai


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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:42, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Abdul Jabbar Al Rifai

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Is that person notable? I tried to determine that, but I rely on automated tools to read Arabic, so, you know, tough one.

Well, ref #1 is a passing mention. Ref #2 and #3 are both newspapers articles about the subject receiving an award with some background information, but the two articles are close paraphrase of one another, which dooms them (probably copy-pasted from the same press release -> not independent). #4 is an introduction / description, I assume of a lecture video (not saved by the archive), which talks about what the lecture says (so, not independent).

A Google Scholar search for "Abdul Jabbar Al Rifai" turned a few citations referencing his work in English papers, but not one of his papers. The search for "عبد الجبار الرفاعي" seems to yield some papers where he’s the author, but it’s hard to tell with all the mojibake. In either case, there is nothing with more than two cites, so that’s not a pass for WP:NPROF #2. [EDIT: though it could also be that Google Scholar is unable to determine who cites who in Arabic text. Obviously, large parts of Islamic theology literature is going to be in Arabic, so missing those works could severely affect citation counts.]

Sorry for the brevity: I had typed something much longer but the PageTriage tool f**ed it up. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 16:40, 14 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 21:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:11, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Iraq. Shellwood (talk) 17:20, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: His VIAF and WorldCat are decent, but not great enough on their own. Curbon7 (talk) 16:24, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Jahaza (talk) 01:14, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Added a neutrally worded notice to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam. Jahaza (talk) 01:19, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep I’m not sure he’s an NPROF pass but based on what I can easily find by way of press coverage of him as a public intellectual I’d say he was a GNG pass - for example 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Mccapra (talk) 02:10, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per resources produced here by . ─ The Aafī   (talk)  03:55, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and Philosophy. TJMSmith (talk) 01:36, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Enough sources and info provided to prove notability.--SouthernNights (talk) 12:41, 1 October 2022 (UTC)


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