Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdul Mohsin bin Walid bin Abdulaziz al-Saud


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The result was delete. A clear consensus for delete after 16 days and relisting. There is also no support for the suggestion that Saudi princes are inherently notable. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 16:46, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Abdul Mohsin bin Walid bin Abdulaziz al-Saud

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There are many Saudi Arabian princes and they are not inherently notable. This particular article falls afoul of WP:BLP1E and possibly WP:BLPCRIME. There doesn't appear to be any notability outside of this single event. clpo13(talk) 15:51, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Indeed there are many Saudi Arabian princes but they are inherently notable as Saudi Arabia is an Absolute Monarchy where each prince can be considered to hold national or international office, making articles about them inherently valid as a US Senator or UK Minister of Parliament. Especially when the media coverage has conferred significant notability on a high-profile criminal act he was involved in and meets guidelines and those regarding reliable sources, which I think it has. Sheepy Shoo (talk) 17:45, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. clpo13(talk) 15:51, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Saudi Arabia-related deletion discussions. clpo13(talk) 15:51, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment. The current Saudi monarch has several hundred half-nephews, and I strongly doubt that, even though they all have a special social status within Saudi Arabia, we should regard all of them as automatically notable - though the subject of the related AfD may have a claim, as (verifiably) a son of a previous Saudi monarch. In this case, though, the accusation of WP:BLP1E seems more true than usual - on a Google search, I can not find a single reference to this person, or for that matter his father, except in news stories about this specific criminal incident. Can anyone else do so? If not - we have quite enough evidence to show that the incident happened, and several aspects of the way it was handled only makes sense if the protagonist was indeed a Saudi prince. But I do wonder if his name was the one given in the news reports. PWilkinson (talk) 08:30, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete No indication that he has any position of government power in Saudi Arabia. The article focuses on one event, that is a news event, and not enough to make him notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:26, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 11:07, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:CRIMINAL ans as noted Saudi royal relations are ten a penny.TheLongTone (talk) 15:50, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as a prince is not inheritly notable and there's nothing convincing of the needed independent notability, nothing at all convincing. SwisterTwister   talk  07:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - only notable for one event, and fails WP:CRIMINAL. Also not inherently notable. Tom29739 [ talk ] 21:23, 23 May 2016 (UTC)


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