Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdul Waheed (suspected aircraft bomb plotter)


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The result was   delete. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:16, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Abdul Waheed (suspected aircraft bomb plotter)

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Completing nomination on behalf of IP editor 2.27.98.195. On the merits, I have no opinion. Note that the article was initially tagged on 25 February, and the nomination dated likewise; I'm processing it on 27 February, so use that as the start date. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 13:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC) AfDs for this article: 

The original rationale, from Talk:Abdul Waheed (suspected aircraft bomb plotter), reads as follows:

I strongly believe this article should be deleted, and it's important for privacy and neutrality within Wikipedia that it should be deleted. The article refers to a suspect in the 2006 transatlantic aircraft terrorist plot I believe that is a notable event: however, this suspect is not notable in his own right. This article contains a lot of personal biographical information that is not relevant to the event and does not belong in an encyclopedia such as this.

A previous discussion, in 2006, resulted in a 25-27 vote. A record of this is linked above. Since the time of that vote, the subject of this article has been cleared of any crime. And, several years have passed without anything further notable around the subject. I have not had the opportunity, but articles on other suspects, such as Cossor_Ali might also be considered for deletion on the same basis. A fuller list of suspects can be found at the AfD link, above.

I am not a regular wikipedian, so please forgive any errors, but I did check the documentation for relevant deletion policies: - Person was notable for being charged in a terrorist plot: since he was cleared, he is not notable for this one event (WP:BLP1E "Being in the news does not in itself mean that someone should be the subject of a Wikipedia article. If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having an article on them. Biographies in these cases can give undue weight to the event and conflict with neutral point of view. In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article."); - extensive biographical information that's not relevant to the charges (WP:NOTWHOSWHO "Even when an event is notable, individuals involved in it may not be. Unless news coverage of an individual goes beyond the context of a single event, our coverage of that individual should be limited to the article about that event, in proportion to their importance to the overall topic. (See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons for more details.)"); - I previously made a speedy deletion tag where I said (in addition to the above 2 points): biographical information is likely to be incorrect/is contradicted elsewhere. A more experienced wikipedian deleted my speedy deletion tag on this basis with the explanation that this info comes from "RSs" - I do not think this makes it encyclopedic or notable, and this doesn't answer my other two points which are backed up strongly with Wikipedia policy; — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.98.195 (talk • contribs) 20:14, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Whilst there are reliable sources in the article, they are all news sources from the same time period (August 2006) when this subject was newsworthy. He has received minimal (no?) coverage since, so WP:BLP1E applies. See also WP:CRIME, which states: "A living person accused of a crime is not guilty unless and until this is decided by a court of law. Editors must give serious consideration to not creating an article on an alleged perpetrator when no conviction is yet secured." Given that he was not convicted of any crime, we should not have an article on Waheed unless he is otherwise notable; we do not have or need articles on everyone ever suspected of a felony. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 14:12, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - I usually am not terrifically sympathetic to the "privacy concerns" of public figures as a rationale for deletion. In this case, however, the fact that the "suspected aircraft bomb plotter" was convicted of nothing — as nearly as I can determine — convinces me that BLP1E might be reasonable invoked here. I'll leave that as a comment rather than a definite delete recommendation for now. Carrite (talk) 01:50, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - What the hell, I talked myself into it. Carrite (talk) 01:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:14, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:16, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
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