Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdullah Al-Yousef


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The result was no consensus. North America1000 11:07, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Abdullah Al-Yousef

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While this article technically meets WP:NSPORT since Al-Yousef played three minutes in the Saudi Professional league four years ago, it only just meets WP:NSPORT and comprehensively fails the general notability guideline, meaning if falls under the section in the lede of WP:NSPORT which says that: the meeting of any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:46, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete - one substitute appearances a number years ago (to technically meet NFOOTY) is not enough when he comprehensively fails GNG. Some COMMONSENSE is needed here, and plenty of AFD precedent exists to say that barely passing NFOOTBALL is not enough when you fail GNG, see Oscar Otazu, Vyacheslav Seletskiy, Aleksandr Salimov, Andrei Semenchuk, Artyom Dubovsky, Cosmos Munegabe, Marios Antoniades, Scott Sinclair, Fredrik Hesselberg-Meyer, Matheus Eccard, Roland Szabó (2nd nomination), Metodija Stepanovski, Linas Klimavičius, Takumi Ogawa, Nicky Fish and Andrei Nițu, amongst others. Fenix down (talk) 15:15, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - as above, 3 minutes of professional play is not enough when he fails GNG so comprehensively. GiantSnowman 19:37, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per User:Fenix down. C679 10:19, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - one of the requirements of WP:NFOOTY is that the subject must have played in a professional match, and this article has done just that. As Wikipedia states "once attained notability is permanent" and this article meets the sport requirements. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 14:28, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That may be, but a single appearance is not in and of itself a guarantee of notability. WP:NSPORT says as much, as I pointed out in the nomination. The guideline is intended a tool to determine at a glance whether or not a footballer is likely to meet the general notability guideline. A first appearance is usually a good indicator that a footballer will have a career that will generate sufficient coverage to do so. However, when the single appearance is the high point of the career, there is almost never sufficient coverage. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:22, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep - meets WP:NFOOTY. Proponent ignores many other decisions that went the other way - which often happens for young players like this one who are still active in the sport. He is captain of Al Jeel which while not fully professional, is the second highest level of football in Saudi Arabia. And he appears to meet WP:GNG given his wedding was newsworthy - . Nfitz (talk) 15:16, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep passes WP:NFOOTY, and also enough coverage per above to possibly pass WP:GNG as well. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:18, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:54, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:FOOTY while if the player had retired or injured it would be different but the player is currently playing in a lower division and has played in March 2016 and is currently active.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:36, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Article passes WP:NFOOTY--Michiquito (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete actually as I would've almost closed this as Keep but this is still actually questionably solid. SwisterTwister   talk  05:07, 23 April 2016 (UTC)


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