Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdullah Al Hilali


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The result was   keep. Cirt (talk) 06:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Abdullah Al Hilali

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while involved in a top level sporting league, I doubt this referee meets notability requirements. Lacks references RadioFan (talk) 12:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Lacks references? You didn't give me 10 seconds to edit this and develop it before bringin this straight here! An international football referee in tournaments such as the World Cup, Champions League and Olympics Games doesn't take a rocket scientist to rrealise that he is a notable football official! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment While I'm finding some passing mentions in football articles, I'm not finding the kind of significant coverage that WP:BIO requires, nor am I aware of any Wikipedia policy or consensus that officials enjoy the same notability assumption that competitors or coaches do. If I missed it, please point it out to me.--RadioFan (talk) 12:44, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

As it seems to be missing from WP:Athlete I indeed suggest that one of the experts on here writes it into the guidelines of meets notability requirements for sporting officials. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but you do seem to revealing a lack of knowledge of what generally meets notability requirements on here. Why for instance would this referee not be notable out of Category:Football (soccer) referees by nationality. What makes this any less notable than Masoud Moradi and the thousands of other articles? This nomination seems to have been spurred by a mistaken belief that football officials are not notable rather than the status of this individual as he is a top international referee and certainly not a criteria for deletion. If you;d waited two minutes for me to edit it time would have been saved. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 13:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 17:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
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 * Weak Delete While reffing in the world cup is a great achievement, I'm not sure its enough for notability purposes, because of the lack of any coverage from media Corpx (talk) 04:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable = he has acheived something of note (not necessarily received a shedload of media coverage). I would certainly say that refereeing in international tournaments such as the Olympics, AFC Champions League and World Cup qualifiers is definately notable in this field, and referees usually only receive extensive media coverage in controversial circumstances. Bettia   (bring on the trumpets!)  10:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep ber Bettia; this person has refereed in the Olympics and (potentially) the World Cup - the two highest levels of football! GiantSnowman 11:04, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep quite notable for a referee considering the competitions he's refereed. There could possibly be Arabic sources about him. Spiderone (talk) 15:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * We have articles on small national league referees. You;d think this would not even be questionable given that he has officiated for the world's biggest football competitions (and is a World Cup referee candidate). This is elite football we are talking about, this shouldn't have even been nominated. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 15:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep There are references and notability appears to be asserted. It would be nice to have more references, but when the article was prodded within 2 minutes of creation and sent to Afd 2 minutes after that, the lack is understandable. Edward321 (talk) 23:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - an impressive array of matches/tournaments officiated, has to be considered notable Eldumpo (talk) 19:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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