Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abe Motozane (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Michig (talk) 06:20, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Abe Motozane
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See list at WikiProject Japan/Historical people. This stub was already deleted once before. A quick search of Google books still shows no support. Ansei (talk) 16:07, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Completing nom improperly started on its 2007 AfD page. czar   &middot;   &middot;  19:40, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment--There is an entry on Abe in Kōdansha's Nihon jinmei daijiten. I have added it to the article. Not many figures from that era make such references works, so I suspect more can be found in other sources, especially Japanese ones. Michitaro (talk) 02:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * Can you tell us anything about this reference work? Google isn't turning anything up for me in English. Gamaliel (talk) 16:55, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It is a pretty standard biographical dictionary put out by Kōdansha, one of Japan's major publishers. The print version is held by most university libraries with Japan studies collections. As with many such dictionaries, editors did have to pick and choose from the thousands and thousands of possible figures to include, and they presumably did so based on some notion of notability and verifiability. While I don't think one entry in one dictionary/encyclopedia is always sufficient to prove notability, entries in several such reference works would be. Michitaro (talk) 01:42, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:37, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep I finally made it to the library and found several historical reference books with entries on Abe. I have added these to the article. While it is still a stub, I believe this both verifies the person and establishes notability. Michitaro (talk) 18:17, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep according to our usual rule about coverage in major national biographical dictionaries. The publisher is eminently reliable, and their chocie of whom to be include is a suitable basis for us, and a good source as well.  DGG ( talk ) 01:11, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep as above. Bueller 007 (talk) 02:26, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
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