Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abe Wagner (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Noting that the 'keep' argument was posted by a sockpuppet. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:34, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Abe Wagner
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Fails WP:MMANOT for only having 2 top tier fights. TUF fights are exhibition, and do not count. Also fails WP:GNG, fights are routine report.  ♡RAFAEL♡(talk) 06:48, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Listings in MMA databases and routine sports coverage doesn't show he meets the GNG. He also fails to meet any notability standard for MMA fighters.Sandals1 (talk) 00:36, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  10:12, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete for the reasons listed in the nomination. BuySomeApples (talk) 05:31, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I was on the fence after looking at guidelines and the criteria for notability for MMA fighters and Wagner's fight history. However, after looking through the references, I think he does pass criteria for WP:GNG. Multiple articles, his interview linked on YouTube, and his coverage through The Ultimate Fighter on television meets significant coverage. Weber1982 (talk) 21:08, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:GNG requires coverage on mainstream websites, not websites specifically dedicated to MMA. Coverage on TUF also wouldn't be enough, look at all the fighters who have competed on TUF that don't have pages on Wikipedia.  ♡RAFAEL♡(talk) 00:48, 6 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete He clearly fails to meet WP:NMMA. I looked at the article's references and did my own search for sources.  I found fight results and listings in MMA databases, but not the significant independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 13:37, 6 September 2021 (UTC)


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