Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abel Ruiz


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:56, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Abel Ruiz

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:43, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   04:48, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 06:55, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 08:12, 9 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep the article - We are talking about a player who has already a professional contract with FC Barcelona, and he is also the first player born in the 20th century to play for FC Barcelona's professional teams. In this regard, it has to be noticed that FC Barcelona B is a fully professional league team, even though they are at the moment part of a mid-professional league as Segunda Division B. Considering the international scope, it is obvious this player has reached such a relevance as being the second best scorer in history in the UEFA European Under-17 Championship, ahead of other professional players as Paco Alcacer, or the one that has been capped most times in history, ahead of players as Toni Kroos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by U2U3 (talk • contribs) 12:44, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * While I don't disagree with you, User:U2U3, the reality is there's two ways to win an argument to keep an article on a football player, and I'm afraid you've not hit either. One is to meet WP:NFOOTBALL with an appearance on a fully-professional team (or a senior international cap), or demonstrate that there is significant media coverage of him (well, and a third - a believable quote from his manager saying he's starting next week - but that's pretty rare). Given he doesn't meet the first, your only hope is the second. What he achieved is nothing - however it could have garnered enough media coverage. What you must do is simply present that coverage. In whatever language it is in. But not just a paragraph about a signing, or a great goal. But in-depth feature articles about the player. And not on the club's website - but from real media outlets. Nfitz (talk) 08:34, 13 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. MYS  77  ✉ 14:54, 14 May 2017 (UTC)


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