Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abhijeet Kosambi (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 10:12, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Abhijeet Kosambi
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Cannot establish notability as per WP:MUSICBIO - meets none of the parameters listed. WP:SIGCOV - There is no significant coverage of this artist. Cannot add any reliable reference. All Google search results list one event or music download sites --Wikishagnik (talk) 00:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC) Wikishagnik (talk) 16:41, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment One should be wary of relying on Gnews, Gbooks for articles about non-western subjects as they don't cover much media outside the Western world. SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 18:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 18:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply - There is enough English language coverage of Notable Indian artists, (tv) serials, musicians etc. Their are several respectable newspapers and magazines that have a well defined editorial process that avoids trivial issues and are available online and show up on google. E.g. | NDTV Home and Music, | CNN - IBN, | Times of India etc. try searching for any Indian musician not reported for notability in Google and you will find many more such sources. --Wikishagnik (talk) 18:25, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I can only find this: Sa Re Ga Ma Pa participants on the Times of India site. So it is only established he participated in the contest. Not enough though so for now Delete. SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 19:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:45, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Are we looking for references to prove he was winner of "Marathi Sa Re Ga Ma Pa"? I found one Marathi reference. This English article has a passing mention of his but does say that he was the winner. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 20:34, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Unfortunately the Marathi article cannot be used as a notability parameter for English Wikipedia. The other article too cannot be used as it does not give any specific dates for concerts. Even if we consider both articles mentioned in this discussion the muscian still does not meet WP:MUSICBIO. --Wikishagnik (talk) 21:26, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Notability does not depend on the language of sources, so a Marathi article is perfectly acceptable as long as it is reliable and independent. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:06, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep: Meets the WP:MUSICBIO criteria of "Has won or placed in a major music competition". -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 20:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - This will be long so have some patience. I have not been able to find any reliable third party reference for this article. Their is a Wikipedia page on Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Challenge 2007 and it does have this artist mentioned but two of the three references mentioned are dead links, the third is a music download site, but I guess that's a separate issue. I did not visit the website of the contest because that would not count as a reliable reference. I have not found significant coverage of the event or this participant yet. The Marathi article cannot be verified by me. --Wikishagnik (talk) 13:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Just a clarification, in case its not clear. The subject was particiapnt in Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Challenge 2007. But he was winner of Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Marathi's season. The Marathi show is based on similar format and arranged by same production house, but only in Marathi language. Similar Bengali show also exists. The winners of these regional shows get/used to get direct enteries in the National i.e. Hindi competition. Marathi and Bengali dont have their own articles yet. However, one season of Marathi which was for children has its own article at Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Marathi L'il Champs. I have voted Keep as he was the winner of marathi show, not participant in Hindi show. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 13:32, 31 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

 Weak Keep This is becoming a question of whether the Marathi show itself is "a major music competition" - if so, as winner, Abhijeet Kosambi qualifies under WP:MUSIC 9. If not, then as mentioned above it becomes a question of whether individual Sa Re Ga Ma Pa contestants on the Hindi show are notable purely on the basis of having participated in that show (as that's the only thing verified by decent sources). Even though it was more than 4 years ago and the subject hasn't done anything of note since, I'd go with a weak keep. Most participants from that 2007 show seem to have articles, and to deny notability on this basis feels like a double standard as regards American Idol and the like. ✤ Fosse 8 ✤ talk 10:02, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * "Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Marathi" is a "major music competition". Its aired on Zee Marathi. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 10:08, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Personally, not knowing the setup, it looks more like a regional spinoff or a qualifying heat for the national Hindi show than a major music competition in its own right, but just to be clear, I'm arguing it doesn't matter either way because being on Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Challenge 2007 is (barely) enough for me. I'm just saying that if SRGMP Marathi is deemed by consensus to be a major competition, then there'd be a strong supposition of notability per WP:MUSIC point 9 which trumps those arguments. ✤ Fosse 8 ✤ talk 11:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
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