Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abhijit Pawar


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:55, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Abhijit Pawar

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Contested PROD. reason was "Passes BLPPROD, just notable enough to pass CSD, but insufficient notability asserted and Verified to remain." The article talk page has a huge swathe of primary sources references. This looks like a pretty standard attempt to gain notability by virtue of Wikipedia entry. Fiddle  Faddle  19:03, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Only one independent source, and I'm not sure of its cred. Many other references there, but they are all from a newspaper(?) owned by him.Deathlibrarian (talk) 23:28, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep I have created the article. There are at least 3 different sources. One of it is from other group newspaper. The person is well known in India, mainly in Maharahstra. I am not sure how one can verify that, but I request to verify it by any sources available. In the end, I am aware that community decides about it. I request more editors to give comments here. Thanks in advance. --Abhijeet Safai (talk) 05:05, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:30, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:30, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Business Standard is certainly credible, and confirms that Pawar owns a newspaper with a circulation of over a million. It is inconceivable that the owner of such a newspaper in the US or the UK would not be considered notable, so why are we even discussing this? Phil Bridger (talk) 19:18, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Phil Bridger. --Abhijeet Safai (talk) 09:02, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:16, 3 October 2013 (UTC)




 * Comment - Yes, it should be discussed, bcause the subject is not really the sole owner, as one contributor here has implied.  The subject is  the son of  Pratap Pawar (the chairman of the Sakal Media Group which owns the paper(s)) who acquired the company in 1985 and built up the business, but, surprisingly, he is mentioned only in passing in the Sakal article. He  was previously the managing director, the post now held by the subject. The subject is a qualified engineer, who wound up his IT activities in Munich   to join the family business when the call came, and succeeded his father. Another Pawar is the editor-in-chief of the group's flagship newspaper. They are all members of the Sharad Pawar  clan. The subject's father Pratap Pawar is a younger brother of  Sharad Pawar, a central government minister, whose daughter Supriya Sule, a Rajya Sabha Member of  Parliament, has also been a board member of the Sakal Media Group.  The creator of this page has, in, fact, himself revised   the Sakal Media Group article, in which the subject and his activities, mentioned in this article, are also mentioned. So, why the duplication! This page doesn't really tell us anything new or more significant about him. More about him could be added to his profile in the Sakal article, as and when required.  That article needs to be improved with more coverage given to other leading figures in the group. It is not a one-man-show, as this AfD seems to imply.  All things considered, I think, for the time being,  the Sakal Media Group article is the ideal place for all Sakal group honchos  to be given  their  fair share of the limelight. The subject here does not seem to warrant an extra article at present.  Hence, I think there is a compelling case to delete this article. I also don't see anything of substance in this article to merge or redirect, but the option is there.- Zananiri (talk) 21:09, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 22:14, 12 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep – Reviewing news archives, I'm convinced the subject meets the notability guideline, and I see enough added content differing from to Sakal to warrant a stub. Information about his positions with other newspapers and organizations are off-topic and should not belong in Sakal. Every sentence has a source, most of which look great, with the only primary sources supporting claims seemingly unlikely to be challenged. A fitting stub if you ask me. &mdash; MusikAnimal talk 03:15, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Not many people become MDs of companies such as Sakal at the age at which he assumed the title, when he succeeded his dad. And not many MDs of such companies can take off for a month's holiday to Disneyland and the USA with their family, just like that.  But then, when asked about this, he said: "I've put professionals in place and I pay them to manage things. I am not here to manage them." (quoted here: http://www.business-standard.com/article/beyond-business/newsmaker-abhijit-pawar-108050901039_1.html). In other words, money talks.  But it is Sakal money. Which is why I think the Sakal Media Group page is sufficient. Sakal made him and not vice versa. All other positions he holds emanate from his standing at Sakal, and the family name, connections and money. His other positions may be off-topic as far as the Sakal article goes, as someone has pointed out on this AfD Page, but those positions alone would not make anyone notable per WP:GNG, so it boils down to his MD post at Sakal. Had he continued doing whatever he was doing in Munich, we might never have heard of him. If Sakal remains a family business and  his son succeeds him one day, just as he has suceeded his father, the son, too, in all likelihood, will have the same sort of standing this man has. Notability in such cases  is incidental.  So, yes, I  think that the Sakal article is where he belongs. The additional bit in this article about his education and the degree he earned  is cosmetic and could be included there. His predecessor, his father Pratap Pawar, who actually built up the company, has no WP article. He is, however, mentioned in passing in the Sakal article, implying that MDs come and go. Here today, gone tomorrow. The Pawar family took over the company in 1985  (see company history in the Sakal article) so one can understand why a Pawar holds the post. It is not like The Coca-Cola Company where the CEO has to earn his position.  I am in favour of this article being deleted. If not, redirecting it to Sakal may be  better than keeping it.- Zananiri (talk) 21:17, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
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