Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abiotic (band) (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 01:54, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Abiotic (band)
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WP:A7 / WP:BAND. The band is kind of cool, but i cant find a reason for them to be here yet. Plus the sources dont really back up the content and they're trash sources too (stuff like Spirit of Metal).

When you google "abiotic technical" or "abiotic band", anything that can possibly give you any relevance to this band, all that comes back is just profiles on sites like Metal Blade, their Metal Archives entry, or the occasional article by sites like Metal Injection, which isn't even relevant jouranilism/press it's just stuff like "band breaks up"/"member quits band". I can't find a reason for this to be here. Theyre no longer on a noteworthy label (Metal Blade is not a major label, i know the previous nom implies such but this band isn't even on the label's roster anymore), theyve never released a charting album and also they havent gotten barely any press for the last 8 years besides the occasional indipendant metal site. Plus it's been more than a year and still the sources that users argued that make the band notable in the previous nom such as a negative review on PopMatters from 2012 or a Houston Press article from 2012 have still never been yet added to the page for this apparently notable band. Second Skin (talk) 11:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, Metal Blade is among the more important indie labels, meeting WP:BAND#4. Geschichte (talk) 20:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * And yet I just noted they’re not the label anymore, refuting this argument. Second Skin (talk) 20:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you expand please?Kolma8 (talk) 22:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: The current status of the Metal Blade label and the band's current connection to the label are utterly irrelevant. WP:DEGRADE Geschichte (talk) 07:35, 11 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, meets WP:BAND#5. Kolma8 (talk) 22:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:MUSICBIO does not state that a subject is notable if it meets criteria listed, only that it might be There is not enough to sustain an article. WP:PRIMARY or otherwise unreliable sources in article. AllMusic is the one exception. The two at Metal Injection are rehashes of social media posts, so WP:SIGCOV is not met. There is only trivial coverage. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:51, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete not-notable band. – Sabbatino (talk) 12:27, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per excellent reasoning by nom. Metal Blade is actually a notable label, but they are not even on the roster anymore, but the sourcing is terrible (the only thing that is reliable is the Allmusic review, the others are spirit of metal, the site of Metal Blade, trivial "they broke up" news and promotional "new album is out" news), and just like the nom, couldn't find anything that establishes notability. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 16:04, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. They released two albums on Metal Blade, and received coverage from PopMatters, Metal Hammer, Houston Press, and Allmusic. The fact that they are no longer signed to Metal Blade is irrelevant, as is the fact that sources that exist have not been added to the article yet. WP:BEFORE is strongly recommended, and this sometimes requires more careful use of search terms, especially when the band name has other common meanings. --Michig (talk) 21:38, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Once again my searches did not show anything, but Michig's magic found enough to convince me that GNG has been met. Removed my delete !vote and siding with the keeps. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:16, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I hate to vote it down, but this article fails WP:GNG there is no significant coverage certainly not from reliable resources to substantiate a stand-alone page. Duncan079 (talk) 17:31, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a new editor concentrating on AFD comments it seems to get to confirmed status, as per their talk page Atlantic306 (talk) 01:18, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per sources found by Michig and clearly releasing on prominent labels passing WP:BAND. GuzzyG (talk) 16:55, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as per the sources linked to by Michig which show significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are listed as such by WikiProject Music so there is no valid reason for the deletion of this article, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:18, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep They were (at least at one point) signed to a major label (Metal Blade), get a lot of coverage through popular metal-based publications, and can easily be found if searched. TheSickBehemoth (talk) 19:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


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