Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abomination (Judaism)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I'm persuaded by the arguments that this is a separate subject from the biblical article. Liz Read! Talk! 06:36, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Abomination (Judaism)

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As pointed out in the AfD for Abomination (biblical) by This is an almost exclusively POV- and OR-based article that should be reconstructed anew if we are to revive it. It should probably be folded in with Abomination (Bible) under a new title if we want to keep anything. ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:29, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bible, Christianity,  and Judaism. Pbritti (talk) 23:29, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is actually pretty clearly based on on the article from The Jewish Encyclopedia (which is cited). Another source that should be helpful is "Abomination" in the Oxford Dictionary of the Jewish Religion. It just needs the off topic material trimmed, which I will do in a second. Merging all information about Judaism into articles about the Bible would be a mistake. Jahaza (talk) 01:05, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd encourage a review of Abomination (Bible), which already is significantly about the Jewish understanding of the concept. The articles are redundant, and following the removal of the extraneous info we are left with a rather stubby article that dovetails well into a broader understanding of the topic. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:41, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I obviously looked at the proposed merge target before suggesting not merging there. Rabbinic Judaism and later/contemporary Judaism is a decidedly broader topic than "in the Bible". Jahaza (talk) 03:35, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Respectfully, I would encourage you to read my original AfD recommendation with the phrase "under a new title". The two articles, if you review them closely, essentially overlap in full. As such, one has to be deleted or the duplicate coverage needs to be removed from one and replaced with coverage of a different topic. I selected the target based on lack of vandalism from CIR editors. ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge with Abomination (Bible). This is an "Old Testament" i.e. Hebrew Bible subject, with nothing from the Christian New Testament.  I do not think this is a case where Jewish and Christians are have different theological interpretations.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:44, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - Well I will go with Jahaza's statement per The Jewish Encyclopedia citation, and per This    Suryabeej      ⋠talk⋡    07:50, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep: This covers rabbinic Judaism's (which is what is largely relevant to modern Judaism) view on the issue, which is not at Abomination (Bible). It could be cleaned up a bit, but it's a distinct article and should be. Folding it in would be a mess of rabbinic interpretations and biblical interpretations, the latter of which apply to multiple religions. TartarTorte 01:16, 5 October 2022 (UTC)


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