Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aboriginal Kaleidoscope


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 16:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Aboriginal Kaleidoscope

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I'm not exactly sure what a "film retrospective" is, but this article purports to be an important career accomplishment of its creator Zoran Dragelj, a non-notable Canadian filmmaker whose Wikipedia article has been nominated for deletion for a variety of reasons, including WP:N, WP:AUTOBIO. The first two hits of a Google search for "Aboriginal Kaleidoscope" and "Zoran Dragelj: are the respective Wikipedia articles, while the third hit is a CV of an academic who partook in this film retrospective. Many of the remaining the hits are heavily based on blog websites.This article was created by (and almost exclusively edited by) Zoran75 which is the confirmed Wikipedia account of Mr. Dragelj by his own admission. The account created this article as well a number of other articles of his work, which have been deleted for simply promoting Mr. Dragelj and failing to meet WP: NOTABILITY.

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· Celluloid Souls · Zoran Dragelj I eat BC Fish (talk) 06:10, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. ceradon  ( talk  •  contribs ) 06:19, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete lacks reliable sources and is not notable. --ceradon ( talk  •  contribs ) 06:22, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It came to my attention that you are proposing to have wiki page, Aboriginal Kaleidoscope deleted. Please don't as this retrospective is really import since it was first of it's kind presented internationally and it was significant for many First Nations video and film artists who have participated. If you need more info please let me know. Thank you Zoran75 (talk) 18:05, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Well... the thing is that while it may be the first of its kind presented internationally, being the first to do something doesn't automatically make it notable. It can make it more likely, but it's never a guarantee. What you will need to do is show where this film received coverage in independent and reliable sources like newspapers reviews of the film. Just claiming that it's notable because of this or that won't accomplish anything- you absolutely must provide coverage in reliable sources. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:57, 31 December 2014 (UTC)




 * Delete until coverage comes forth showing notability.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 21:32, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:43, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per lack of reliable sourcing. Simple existence is not an inclusion freebie on Wikipedia; notability is a factor of media coverage, not unsourced claims of being the first of something. Bearcat (talk) 23:06, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.