Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aboubacar Camara (footballer born 1983)


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The result was   delete. Black Kite (talk) 23:40, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Aboubacar Camara (footballer born 1983)

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I cannot find any sources about this footballer, even to establish his existence; all are rather about Titi Camara, who shares the same first and last name but was born in 1972. The article creator has added only general pages that require searching, and those where I have been able to search (some do not respond when I try to search) are listing only Titi Camara. The article still has 2 footnotes (2 others were removed in a recent edit as useless), so the "unreferenced BLP" tag is strictly inappropriate, but none of the 4 mentions this Aboubacar Camara. BLP:PROD was declined, so here we are. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:45, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - This is a completely useless and unreferenced article. Steve Lux, Jr. (talk) 17:01, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:00, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:00, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. What do you mean it's a useless and unreferenced article? It clearly fulfills WP:NFOOTBALL. CesareAngelotti (talk) 18:09, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * There is absolutely no reference to support ANYTHING on the article page. Steve Lux, Jr. (talk) 18:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:43, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - no evidence of notability (per WP:GNG or WP:NFOOTBALL), and no player of this name was born in 1983. GiantSnowman 19:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence that this player has ever played professional football. Article seems to make vague claims that he played internationally for Guinea, but there is no evidence to support that either -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - The subject is of this article is simply not notable.  V e r s a c e 1 6 0 8   (Talk) 22:44, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: After reading the article, I was of the opinion that it met WP:FOOTBALL but required cleanup, then I tried opening the references and googling the player then I got irritated (especially because of the so-many Camara's that existed in Guinea) and abandoned it. It is either this article is a poorly sourced notable one or a promotional piece by some unknown local player.Darreg (talk) 23:17, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Of the clubs mentioned in the subject's career infobox, only two were playing in a fully professional league (as per the footballer-specific notability criteria at WP:NFOOTBALL) at the time he supposedly played for them. The Turkish Football Federation website helpfully lists each club's squad for each season: Mr Camara doesn't appear in Elazigspor's squad for 2000/01 or 2001/02 (select season from dropdown menu in Team Staff section and click on search). Nor does he appear in ForaDeJogo.net's squad list for Estrela Amadora for 2002/03. As GiantSnowman says above, there's no-one of this name/dob on the NFT international players database. I can't find any evidence of this person's existence, let alone as a footballer in a fully professional league, and certainly not as an influential international player, which the article implies. Struway2 (talk) 15:23, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 09:20, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
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