Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/About Her


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Promised sources not delivered. Should sources become available, this can be re-created. Or restored to user space to allow for improvement until ready. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 16:10, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

About Her

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Online magazines and websites are not given an automatic free pass over WP:N just because they exist — their ability to qualify for Wikipedia articles is determined by criteria at WP:MEDIA or Wikipedia:Notability (web), respectively. This one fails both IMO.

The only coverage about this web cum online mag I can see in independent RS in here but it is actually an announcement of the mag launching. The rest of the coverage about this mag I found is some paid press releases in some dubious+unreliable sources, both in English and Arabic language sources. For example, this, this, this and this are obviously paid press releases in English language unrelaible sources. Similarly, this, this and this is coverage in Arabic language magazine Sayidaty which is not indepdent of the subject because the Sayidaty is owner of this online magazine as well so there is obvioiusly COI. Other than this, Search doesn't produce any substantial and non-trivial coverage about this mag in independent RS which means this web+mag fails to meet basic GNG as well. Therefore I Can't see any significance. Saqib (talk) 18:50, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep I'm afraid I'll have to disagree. It looks to me like you have taken the time to filter only the sources that would back your argument. Despite that, it is worth mentioning that Sayidaty is the biggest Arabic women's lifestyle magazine (and website) globally. Any reliable statistic website will tell you that - including Effective Measure. What you should have done however is request that the 'AboutHer.com' article be updated with more sources, facts, and references. But not deleted. Abouther.com's list of the 100 Saudi Women Creating Change was published on news papers and magazines across the Middle East. It has since become a source for news on Saudi women mainly. Here you'll find more reliable reports referencing stories that have appeared on AboutHer.com: This, this, this, this, this, and this. the list goes on. Wikipedia is a source for information and I believe that any platform that triggers public interest must be acknowledged because people and journalists will search for information about the site and it is important that it is stated clearly who the publisher is, where it is based and to whom it caters (in an unbiased context). I hope this helps.--JenniferCraigCarter (talk) 14:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * First of all, I am just curious if you're in anyway connected with this magazine? If there is any COI, please declare it. Because as far I can see you've so far participated in only one other AfD which is related to this magazine. Now back to topic, none of the coverage you provided above able to establish WP:N. Some of them are RS but they merely namecheck (mention in passing) the website, while some of them are not RS at all. I can't see any mention about this magazine cum website in these sources . The standard set for sources to support claims within an article is a lower standard than that for sources to establish WP:N. My comments are concerned with sources used to establish notability. And I don't think the provided sources meet the criteria for establishing notability. --Saqib (talk) 15:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I may have pasted the wrong links. I will try and update them later today. Also, I am in no way affiliated with the website or its editors. The only reason I have participated in these two related accounts is because it is related to my first wikipedia page about the editor. And because I had edited this page as well to link to that page. That is all. I intended to create another page for the model who also carries a similar name to the editor but this is proving time-consuming with all the research required, so I may need to postpone that for now. Thanks.

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Note Sockpuppet investigations/Butch.labajo. --Saqib (talk) 12:40, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong delete sources boted above aren't even about or related to this subject. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:17, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:48, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as there are not enough sources which explain why this is notable. The coverage is about the launch which is fairly routine. This is a fairly new website and I don't see any significant achievement which makes it stand out from the numerous online magazines. There is no information about the subscribers or any significant impact or award. At this time, I think a delete is fair.--DreamLinker (talk) 04:24, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


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