Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abraham Godwin (soldier)


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The result was keep. Not eligible for speedy keep. (non-admin closure)  J 947(c) (m) 04:25, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Abraham Godwin (soldier)

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Borderline notability Arthistorian1977 (talk) 15:25, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep The subject had his own chapter in the Sons of the American Revolution and a plaque. Find it hard to delete him. Rogermx (talk) 15:45, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

I added some more sources. He wasn't just a Soldier in the Revolution, he was the Captain of his own Militia from Totowa, NJ, and stationed onboard the USS Lady Washington. He led Washington and his troops through New Jersey to the Deleware River. He was a high ranking official. CHGodwin (talk) 16:46, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep The sources in the article directly about him establish notability on the keep side of the border. Alansohn (talk) 17:02, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * After reconsidering, I withdraw my nomination and I am for keep as well. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 18:11, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment How do I know when the discussion is closed? Is there a certain time period? Thanks- CHGodwin (talk) 19:03, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You don't. Until we establish consensus here, the discussion is opened. Also, as far as I see from your username, you're related to the person in subject, so I would advise you to look at Conflict of interest to avoid misunderstandings. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 21:25, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose withdrawal and advocate delete. The problem with this article is that it lacks reliable sources. If Godwin was as key to General Washington's travel through New Jersey, we would have reliable, scholarly sources supporting this. This article is built on primary sources and sources that seek to build up the reputation of the individuals they commenorate, as opposed to giving balanced historical treatment. The sources here are just not the level of sourcing needed to support the claims of the article in an encyclopedia entry.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:10, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Having Captain Abraham Godwin Chapter at Sons of the American Revolution may grant passing, but the lack of sources makes me reconsider again. Gosh, this one is hard to decide. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 21:32, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment @Johnpacklambert The source of what Abraham did for George Washington was recorded by his son David in his recollections which are currently held at the library in Lambert Castle. They are not online and I have no idea if Lambert Castle would work with wikipedia to get the proper sourcing. CHGodwin (talk) 17:34, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I see plenty of book mentions (in a quick google book search) for this particular Goodwin.Icewhiz (talk) 21:59, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - @Arthistorian1977 More sources have been added and the currently unsourced claim about George Washington has been removed. Abraham wasn't just in the military but was also elected to multiple government offices in New Jersey. I sincerely thank you for your patience. CHGodwin (talk) 03:30, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, after looking at the sources, I finally get off the fence and I do withdraw my own nomination and think it's a Keep. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 08:03, 6 September 2017 (UTC)


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