Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti


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The result was   keep. Closing early per WP:SNOW (non-admin closure) Monty  845  16:19, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti

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Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:ONEVENT, the relevant part of the latter being "When the role played by an individual in the event is less significant, an independent article may not be needed, and a redirect is appropriate". His role in the event was, basically, be stupid enough to not notice being tailed. There is little of note to be said about the man personally apart from his connection to the bin Laden raid. Wat little needs to be said is already at Death of Osama bin Laden. Tarc (talk) 17:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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Strong keep This is not about one event or news, this guy provided training to the 911 perpetrators and provided safe have to the top suspects in its aftermath, its mentioned in this book briefly here. By the criteria of this nomination Death of Osama bin Laden also fails because of "one event" and "not news". Absurd. This is about a terrorist which the CIA and US intelligence knew about and tracked for years and was essential to eventually finding bin Laden. His name is mentioned in tons of wiki leaks documents that the CIA tried to extract from people in Guantanamo. He was described as bin Laden's right hand man and his contribution to the al Qaeda network planning and infrastructure is immeasureable. Bin Laden relied on such men and were the brains behind his operations, at least for influencing developments in the al-Qaeda network. He is independent in his own right as an al Qaeda operative, the US government and intelligence would verify this. He's been linked to Tora Bora and many of the other top officials and events. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:15, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep There is already more to be said about him, and it is clear that more will come out. Looie496 (talk) 21:49, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Saw this on Jimbo's talk page. Incredibly notable and getting more so.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:08, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per all of the above. Hugely important figure already, and will be becoming more so in the coming days/weeks. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:10, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I think harboring the most wanted man in the world for several years constitutes as a significant role. Leading the US to bin Laden's location would be another significant fact and also and apparently he trained the 9/11 hijackers in the use of computers. I think a article is called for. I also think that the media will dig up more on him as the weeks and months pass. We may end up seeing an actual photo of him and some more biography. I think deleting this now is a mistake. I think there is a lot of interest in finding out who he was and what his full role was and I think some of those details will emerge. 1.4k people hit on this article yesterday demonstrating a high interest and significance. --Ishtar456 (talk) 22:57, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per nom et al - frankieMR (talk) 23:37, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - He has become a historic figure, worthy of encyclopedic biography. Carrite (talk) 02:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable individual. WP:NOTNEWS and WP:ONEVENT inapplicable. Training individuals pre-911. Continued association and confident of Bin Laden. His not noticing he was being tailed of no consequence, specially as there are satelites circling the earth that can zoom in on the unsuspecting and determine which finger they use to scratch their noses. That more about the man's actions becomes available now that investigations can be revealed is a boon for Wikipedia. Good article. Most informative and helpful to our readers in their understanding of the topic.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:12, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't think we should give an article to every friend of bin Laden, but he certainly has some real historical significance. Qrsdogg (talk) 04:21, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable per WP:GNG / WP:BIO, in his own right  Chzz  ► 10:48, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Numerous news sources over several days, notable individual  Jebus989 ✰ 12:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable dead historical figure. Erxnmedia (talk) 12:45, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Notable figure as per WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Joyson Noel  Holla at me!  13:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep. Notable in his own right for his terrorist training activities and role in numerous terrorist attacks. Numerous sources already cited above to show he passes WP:GNG. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:21, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Is this WP:SNOW yet? If there's little chance of deletion, let's close this AfD and get the AfD tag off the article, as thousands of people are seeing the deletion tag every day when they view the article. OCNative (talk) 14:33, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree! Let's close this AfD right now. It looks really bad on the article. Joyson Noel  Holla at me!  14:34, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
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