Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abyssinian Creole


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. J04n(talk page) 13:24, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Abyssinian Creole

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A non notable hip hop group, from the looks of it never made it. Koala15 (talk) 23:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2013 May 5.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  23:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Appears to fail WP:BAND's guidelines for music. Unless more significant coverage could be found, which is about the only way this article could make the criteria of the band notability guideline (and I doubt it), the subject is not notable.   Red Phoenix  build the future...remember the past... 01:26, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Short of WP:BAND. Trivial media visibility, with the one review of a local concert I found lukewarm at that.Truth or consequences-2 (talk) 10:58, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  01:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  01:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. Two notable members. Enough coverage to at least have a short article. --Michig (talk) 07:51, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - Passes point #6 of WP:BAND: "...an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians..." Northamerica1000(talk) 10:53, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - While they would technically pass #6 of WP:BAND, they still need WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS to pass WP:GNG. They just don't have the significant coverage to support the article. Also not sure if #6 would apply as it looks like the "notable" members are up for deletion themselves. I will leave a comment for them as well, judged independently of course. --FoolMeOnce2Times (talk) 14:57, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. If this is to be kept because we have two members of the band notable enough for their own articles.... and then those two members have their articles deleted, then what? It might not be unwise to relist this once so that we can evaluate this article in terms of the notability of its members. Perhaps a group nomination might have been simpler, on that point. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 16:07, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - Exactly, great question! Also, regardless of the members being notable or not, would you support an article about a band with "notable" members, even without the band receiving any type of significant coverage? I just hate to say that the band is defacto notable as some of their members are notable. I feel taht WP:GNG still need to be met before evaluating them for WP:BAND. --FoolMeOnce2Times (talk) 16:39, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L Faraone  05:32, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Keep. Just updated everything, with reliable sources from Allmusic, Seattle Weekly, The Stranger, The Seattle Times, Bumbershoot and more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.191.231 (talk) 10:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note. Both members have been deemed individually notable at separate AfDs. --Michig (talk) 06:15, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:24, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted for discussion of the new additions, which may reach Heymann standards. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep – I'd agree with Michig here. In addition to the coverage that 24.18.191.231 has been good enough to add to the article, I see other bits of significant coverage off-line, for example "Hip hop slides in for summer"; Scanlon, Tom. Seattle Times, 23 June 2006: I6. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 20:17, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.