Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ace in the Hole (Cole Porter song)


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The result was   Withdrawn And yet, if I hadn't AFDed this, it would still be a one-sentence, unsourced stub. Funny how you sometimes have to rock the boat to get something done... Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 16:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Ace in the Hole (Cole Porter song)

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No reliable sources found anywhere. Prod declined without comment. The fact that multiple artists recorded the song is immaterial if none of their recordings achieved any attention. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 00:51, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm inclined to delete until someone can provide sources. The statement 'a popular song' is meaningless without evidence. Clovis Sangrail (talk) 01:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong keep, speedy close, and since trout slapping obviously has no impact on the nominator, whack him with something carrying the heft of a manatee. A simple,limited Google Books search turns up over 400 hits/sources ; Google News has dozens ; even a simple Google search shows strong signs of notability (even given that quite a few entries in each class are cataloguing). Even given that the song comes from a 1941 "smash hit" musical, making it highly likely that the bulk of available sources aren't accessible online, it almost impossible to escape the conclusion that the only reason the nominator reports that no sources can be found is that he simply couldn't be bothered to look for them. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 01:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems more likely that the nominator made a naive search on the exact article title, such as is done by the templated searches above. He should please observe the way in which your more intelligent and effective searches have been constructed, separating the phrase "Ace in the Hole" from the other keywords, "Cole" and "Porter".  It is better to teach a man to fish than to give him a fish (or manatee). Colonel Warden (talk) 06:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * After the number of times the same issue has come in similar deletion discussions started by the same nominator, and his refusal to address the issues involved, it's clear to me that the nom is a chronic violator of WP:BEFORE with no interest in changing his behavior. The fact that the nom's principal response is to make profane posts and spurious ANI complaints about me colors my opinion, I'm sure. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 14:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - I rewrote the stub and added a few references. This is a very well-known Cole Porter song: it's included in just about every comprehensive collection. SteveStrummer (talk) 03:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Obviously a notable song for a notable artists. And having notable artists cover a song, adds to its notability.   D r e a m Focus  05:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Notable song that stands alone on its own. Shadowjams (talk) 08:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - As creator, I strongly believe this song is notable. It's a well known song by Cole Porter, 'nuff said. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 08:37, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Not so much a WP:SNOWBALL, but a river of fish heading to the sea. Thanks to those who actually improved the article. Obviously no country version, eh TenPound? --Richhoncho (talk) 13:51, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
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