Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ace of Spades (song; live)

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash 01:50, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Ace of Spades (song; live)
This article is about a live single version of a song by Motörhead. The song already has an article at Ace of Spades (song). Cover versions of songs do not normally get their own articles so this live version should not either. I previously merged and redirected this article with the song's main article but my edits were reverted by it's creator. --Moochocoogle 22:12, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, notable record release. Kappa 22:33, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ace of Spades (song). The AMG link on this article only reviews the recorded version, not the live one. Of course, if it seems illogical that someone would type "Ace of Spades (song; live)", then just delete it. Jaxl | talk 22:40, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Merge with Ace of Spades (song). Redirects are fun and cheap! -- BD2412 talk 22:53, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * After seeing the work put into this, a mere redirect would be inappropriate. Preserve the information, but keep it in one article. -- BD2412 talk 15:12, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect as per Jax. No need for article about live version. Capitalistroadster 00:39, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect as above. -- Etacar11   00:59, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Motorhead has a full discography, removing it makes timelines and moving from one single to next impossible. The singles were released to support different albums. Moochocoogle states that most band don't deserve a song entry and redirected without reference, note or moving deleted data to talk (removed pictures, lyrics etc when 'merging'). Now I've unmerged: immediately on VfD. Also for both, take a look at the discography section on the motorhead page and suggest what to do if this are deleted, leave them red? Alf 11:44, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If you view my merged version here, you will see that i managed to keep all the information, (including pictures), in one article (except for the lyrics, which are almost certainly copyrighted). I preserved the single timeline by slightly altering the infobox. It makes so much more sense to do it this way. Currently, song articles in Wikipedia are all primarily about the song, with single releases of the song mentioned as part of the article (see WikiProject Songs). Creating two articles about one song doesn't make sense, no matter how many times it has been recorded and released as a single. By the proposed scheme of having articles about each single release of a song could end up creating hundreds of articles with little meaningful information about frequently covered songs (or duplicating most of the information in each article). --Moochocoogle 19:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You did embed the items I do apologies for that, the picture was in a place I didn't expect, from a reader point of view I find it confusing, chart listing, producer, space for timings (when I have a break to time the ones that aren't on the records), album position all of these are really unclear (IMHO). A note on the article or my talk page have alerted me to the ongoing discussion on rules for articles subject to this catgory - I understand that a consensus is forming that supports your edits, however, loss of clarity in the topic for the want of two pages would be a shame.
 * Keep -- this is a distinct record release, part of the discography. *Dan* 12:32, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Merging these will diminish the value and clarity of both entries (they should have links to each other though) NoSeptember  13:29, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as part of a well-organized group of articles. A random cover version should usually not merit a separate article but when someone takes the time to organize a topic coherently, we should applaud the end result. -- DS1953 17:35, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a separate and distinct entry in the Mötörhead catalogue. This was released as a special edition and should been documented separately. Hamster Sandwich 21:47, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Mötörhead's awesome. I'm for as many articles about Mötörhead as possible, especially when they're this competent.  Hooper_X
 * Delete. Unencyclopedic Motörhead cruft. / Peter Isotalo 02:10, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. What they said. --Methegreat 19:40, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a seperate release, and so is equally deserving of a seperate page as any studio album. 7Munkys 09:27, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If a studio album is released several times, maybe with a different track listing, we don't automatically have seperate articles for them. A note is just made in the original article. --Moochocoogle 19:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.