Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Achievements of telecom sector during 2004-2007


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The result was delete. Sandstein (talk) 21:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Achievements of telecom sector during 2004-2007

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Unenyclopedic mess, with very much the wrong title as it refers only to the telecoms industry of Pakistan. Borderline WP:CSD but not quite. Declined Speedy. Pedro : Chat  13:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Almost blatant advertising, although doesn't appear to be promoting any one thing in particular. Also looks like it could well be a copyvio - I just suspect it. Would need a complete rewrite to be encyclopedic, and as a standalone topic probably fails WP:N and would need merging and attention from an expert on the subject.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 13:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Note that Azeemsajjad is Project Manager - R&D Ministry of Information Technology, Pakistan. No doubt he is preparing this for his lords and masters and has decided to use Wikipedia as a sandbox. Of course Azeem would probably find it too much like hard work to improve the Communications in Pakistan article. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 13:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Advert and sandbox, I agree with both.  WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN  play it cool.  23:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment -- According to WP:DEL our conclusions as to whether an article should be deleted should not rely on the current state of the article. They should be based on whether the topic itself merits coverage.  If the topic itself merits coverage, but the article needs improvement, it should be improved, not deleted.  That is straight from the policy.  Geo Swan (talk) 13:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, but rename -- this article is really about Pakistan's telecom sector. That is what it should be called, or something similar, like Telecommunication in Pakistan.  This is clearly a notable topic.  According to the sources I found telephone access grew from 4 percent to 35 percent, just during the years 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007.  That kind of explosive growth clearly merits coverage.  I have taken the liberty to scale the article back to a stub, because that is how much I could reference in the amount of time I am prepared to budget to this article today.  There are aspects to this article that initially made me wonder whether this is a .  I think it probably isn't however.  I suspect that someone wrote a document for some other purpose, and thought they could include it here, but didn't (yet?) provide any references.  I have no problem with the original contributor(s) putting back some or all of the original material, provided they were in fact the original author(s) of that material, it is written so it fits -- is "encyclopedic", and they provide references.  Cheers!  Geo Swan (talk) 13:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * merge -- I overlooked RHaworth's reference to Communications in Pakistan. It is a topic worthy of coverage -- largely unreferenced however.  Whatever valuable material that was originally in this article that can be properly referenced should be merged with article.  Cheers!  Geo Swan (talk) 13:53, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. It's possible that this could be a WP:HEY, but it needs more work than has already been done.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 11:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


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