Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Achita Pramote


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The arguments for deletion are compelling. In the case of a WP:BLP, when as here even a reasonably thorough search fails to yield coverage in reliable sources that would make the article even verifiable, these two policies mandate deletion. This is without prejudice to restoration if reliable sources are found.  Sandstein  06:31, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Achita Pramote

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Barely sourced blp (some sort of news archive with no mention, and a dvd review on a blog), and of questionable notability Jac 16888  Talk 10:45, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
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 * Meets WP:MUSICBIO #5 - released four albums with GMM Grammy, according to article on th.wikipedia. Referencing does need to be fixed. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:32, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 4 May 2012 (UTC)




 * Delete the sources are insufficient to assert notability. There appears to be no interest in trying to improve/save it. Stormbay (talk) 02:59, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:09, 12 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:MUSIC 5, (and the Lord of the Rings thing is a nice notability bonus!) but the article needs to do more to both explain his notability, and provide much better sources. ✤ Fosse 8 ✤ talk 15:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything to suggest he has released any albums, never mind two, and it still fails to meet the primary criteria of all blps in that it has zero reliable sources-- Jac 16888 Talk 14:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment It's really difficult to find references - I can't speak or read Thai and naming conventions appear to be quite hard to translate/transliterate (the same person (so far as I can tell from different sites using the same album artwork but different artist names!) comes back as Ing, Achita, Archita, Achita Ing, Ing Archita Pramote, Ing Pramote and lots more besides), but these pages are in the Western alphabet and (sort of) English:- http://www.ethaicd.com/show.php?pid=15271; http://www.theorchard.com/release/884385234171/chai-ta-pra-moch/ing-today; http://www.ethaicd.com/show.php?pid=30731. Searches for some of those names also indicate he's strongly linked with something called "A Chai Ta Pra Moch" (I'm guessing this is a group where he's a part-time member or something) also on the same label, who recorded the single "Perfect Sunday" as mentioned in the article (http://www.theorchard.com/artist/122062/releases/) but the Thai article in translation doesn't really explain.  In any event, GMM Grammy are a major label, one of the biggest in SE Asia, and so I'd argue he meets WP: MUSIC 5.  We just need a Thai speaker to come and tidy this up, the notability and sources seem to be there but we need help on how to find them. ✤ Fosse 8 ✤ talk 11:36, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
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