Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Achraf Amiri


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The result was   delete. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 04:27, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Achraf Amiri

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Non-notable artists. A fashion illustrator whose works have been published, but about whom no significant reliable sources can be found. Cited sources are either blogs or other unreliable sources, or bare mentions in passing. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:11, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. He's just an ordinary person fulfilling the expectations of his job. No discernable reason why this should be noteworthy at all. --gilgongo (talk) 20:30, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG. Sources which confirm he is an illustrator (his job) do not support notability.''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   01:47, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete -- looks NN to me. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:43, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep/comment - I'm going to consider this a bit more carefully. The guy is incredibly talented and does seem to be drawing attention. Is it WP:TOOSOON? Perhaps. But he has contributed to a large number of significant publications. He has been interviewed for the Swell City Guide in 2012, and for 1883magazine - both independent publications answering to editorial control. There's an "article on his art" in the April-May 2011 edition of Auxillary magazine - I took a look at the PDF file and it's quite substantial, covering four pages. He's also worked with a number of high profile people - yes, not enough in itself to make him notable, but it is enough to have brought about at least three decent interviews and articles specifically about him, in addition to the attention of a great many non-notable sources. I also dug a bit deeper and found a six-page spread from page 66 of issue 54 of Notion Magazine - he's not just provided illustrations, he's collaborated with an editorial team and stylists to interlace the illustrations with photographs, and they chose to use the accompanying text to cover his work, who he is, and what he does. The (tough to navigate) digital copy of said magazine is here - I winced when I saw the text itself as it's not well edited, but it still seems a well-established publication - and not every illustrator gets editorial commentary on them or whole spreads dedicated to their work. I suspect there's quite a lot more coverage out there, too. Mabalu (talk) 15:13, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - Given that you state  yes, not enough in itself to make him notable, but it is enough to have brought about at least three decent interviews and articles specifically about him, in addition to the attention of a great many non-notable sources and agree that it is probably WP:TOOSOON I wonder why you voted to keep?''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   22:43, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Response My original post was stream-of-consciousness as I searched for sources. When I said "Too soon?" that was EARLY on in the paragraph, a rhetorical question I then went on to try and answer by trying to find reliable sources. By the end of the paragraph, I had found enough material to make me feel secure in voting Keep, so I added that in at the beginning and trusted that my commentary would show the process of my search and the progress of my thinking from "Is it too soon?" to "Hmm, this person might be notable" and eventually, "Yes, I think he is notable." You took a quote out of context: "yes, not enough in itself to make him notable" - which refers to the fact that simply working alongside notable people does not confer notability. The point, however, is that Amiri's work has been singled out specifically for notice and has been the subject of editorial commentary in more than one publication. Editors have made a point to insist that we know about this illustrator and what he's doing. Finding good source material was tricky due to the "great many non-notable sources" - self-published material, personal blogs/reblogs, etc - that clogged the searches, but it exists, and covers a period of a few years, which I feel is sufficient to demonstrate notability. Mabalu (talk) 01:43, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
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