Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Acme Mills (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. The article can be moved at editorial discretion. (non-admin closure) Mz7 (talk) 22:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Acme Mills
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Non-notable, fails WP:NCORP. Last discussion ended in no consensus because  NO ONE  participated in the discussion other than myself. Mr. Guye (talk) 02:04, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 14:41, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Move with redirect to Acme Mills Group. There is enough available for all the divisions combined to be WP:GNG. VMS Mosaic (talk) 05:32, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * delete Keep changed my mind based on input below; the cited articles are available to New York Times subscribers via the TimesMachine. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 20:03, 31 December 2014 (UTC) - I hate to see an article go when it is for a company that's been around almost a century. However, I dug pretty deep through online sources and could not find sufficient reliable source material to support an article.  Likely that the only way of keeping this will be to pull out some physical library assets. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 00:43, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 03:54, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. There may not be much coverage available readily online, but for a U.S. industrial firm of this nature (size, age), there will be extensive historical coverage in reliable sources in major regional and national newspapers, and company histories, and more.  About financings, and products, and building and closing plants, and so on.  What they did during World War I (making uniforms?  who knows?) and during World War II, and so on.
 * Right now I am unable to see the complete articles, but in historical New York Times database (and NYC is far away), articles with hits on "Acme Mills" include:
 * July 26, 1917: *NO SPECULATION IN WOOL.; Smaller Demand as the Supply is Gradually Decreasing."
 * February 27, 1927: *"MAJORITY OF NEW STATIONS USE LOW-POWER OUTPUTS; Kentucky Is Home of Latest 1,000-Watt Transmitter -- Other Newcomers Are Less Powerful -- Changes in Waves and Ownership", including sentence "AMONG the new stations reported by the Department of Commerce as having begun operation during the past week was WFIW, Acme Mills, Inc., Hopkinsville, ..."
 * March 14, 1920: "CUTTING OUT OF NEEDLESS WASTE; Typical Instances Showing How Large a Factor This Is in Increasing Costs.", including imperfectedly text-converted sentence "the acme mill un executive, worried by . the extent of the waste, recently tools a Qom, tour around the machines. At each of is a In W hick the waste silk is ..."
 * and it is named as a debtor in a few articles on bankruptcy proceedings of companies,
 * and there may be more coverage even within New York Times as I am not sure of how my search access is working.
 * I think there would be more coverage in national and regional newspapers closer to Acme Mills' midwest location. If we really do know reasonably well that coverage exists, the right thing to do is tag the article, not delete it. -- do  ncr  am  19:27, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Also the AcmeMills.Com "history" page states "Founded in 1917 as a textile supplier to Ford Motor Company for the Model T, the Acme Group has been creating creative textile solutions for their clients for 96 years"and and a bit more, including mention of divisions: Acme Mills, Fairway Products, Great Lakes Filters, and Ervins Group. So for notability, search also:
 * -- do ncr  am  20:59, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * -- do ncr  am  20:59, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * -- do ncr  am  20:59, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * -- do ncr  am  20:59, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment. I interpret VMS Mosaic's "move with redirect" as "Keep" plus intend to move/rename.  Moving/renaming to more clearly cover the whole company is fine of course.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.