Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Action of 23 April 1945


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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:49, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Action of 23 April 1945
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1. This is a skirmish within an engagement. Neither primary nor secondary sources consider this material enough to be a battle in its own right. 2. This is written by an indefinitely suspended user with a history of adding essays to wikipedia. 3. It lacks SIGCOV in multiple RS necessary to meet WP:GNG. The engagement between a German submarine and an American on April 23, 1945 is not described as a battle in its own right by reliable sources. It would be better to delete the page and ensure any sourced details are recorded instead in the article about the USS Besugo (SS-321) 4. Given that this "battle" is not documented elsewhere, it is a new battle as theorised by the creator's original research. This battle honor is not recognized as such by the United States Navy. His creations have the prefix "Action of" and a suffix of the date in British English format, to emulate the manner/format in which certain battle honors of the Royal Navy were recorded from 1847 onwards. It is mentioned on Talk:Action of 12 October 1950 Keith H99 (talk) 21:49, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages, for the same reasons. These articles contain lots of maybes and probablys. They have a reading list at the foot of the page. They do not have inline citations. These engagements are lacking in significance.

Any sourced content should be recorded within the articles for U-168, U-1224, USS Flounder & USS Growler.

Relisted WW2 articles as per request from Peterkingiron Thanks Keith H99 (talk) 21:58, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:05, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:05, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete Always a bad sign when the action in question has no name. Submarine attacks do not normally get their own articles. Agree with nom that it is better recorded in the articles on recorded within the articles on U-168 and USS Besugo. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  23:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Information about these engagements can go in the articles about the various submarines. Cullen328 (talk) 01:30, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all and merge relevant content to relevant ships/submarines. Mztourist (talk) 03:46, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * merge relevant content to relevant ships/submarines - done on 13 January Keith H99 (talk) 14:55, 17 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete all as suggested by Mztourist. These names are too ambiguous, many things would happen on one day of such a vast conflict as World War II, and it would be quite possible that a similarly notable (whether enough for an article or not is another matter) engagement may have also taken place in a remote island of the Pacific, on the Eastern Front, or on the Western Front for all but the last one, on the same day. Which one would get the article? If articles with this format of title should ever exist, they should be disambiguation pages. Mako001 (C) (T)  11:03, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge all -- I would suggest the target should be something like United States anti-submarine operations in Pacific Theater, which is a long enough title without adding WWII to it. The actions are not individually notable enough to require articles.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:50, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This information could be merged into the article about the ship, and der U boat that sank - it's just an engagement between two ships, its not an actual battle. It doesn't get its own article. Deathlibrarian (talk) 06:42, 14 January 2022 (UTC)


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