Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Active NHL players by nationality


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The result was   delete. WP:SNOW  MBisanz  talk 00:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Active NHL players by nationality

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Sometimes lists get a little too specific. There is a very small chance of this list ever being accurate with players being promoted, demoted, waived, signed and traded every day. This list is utterly unmaintainable, which means it will always be wrong, which means that it is pointless. Smashvilletalk 04:26, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: For instance, this week was a holiday week, but there have been 25 player movements. The week before there were 58 player movements. Every single movement makes this list wrong because it means a player is either joining or leaving the team. --Smashvilletalk 04:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not sure of the notability, however I agree that maintaining this as a list of active players is unfeasible. However, as a historical list, showing the nationality of players through time would be useful, imo, especially as it would show the growth of the American and European markets. Resolute 05:01, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed...a historical list updated at the end of each season could be a far more reasonable undertaking. --Smashvilletalk 05:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * delete i support the deletion of this article and all other hockey articles that are of "current" or "active" NHLers. Masterhatch (talk) 06:34, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 07:03, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hockey-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 07:03, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: This article is both a haven for original research and nearly impossible to keep up to date. Who on the Calgary Flames is Brazilian? Last time I checked, Robyn Regehr is a Canadian who represents Canada internationally. Olaf Kölzig has definately never seen ice time with the South African ice hockey team, but he sure likes the German squad. This list will just confuse anyone who reads it. It's laced with falacies. Besides, "Most players from one nation on a team"? Come on now...anyone ever hear of the saying "Canada is a state without a nation, while Quebec is a nation without a state." I don't want to get into the whole nation-state debate, but you get my drift. – Nurmsook!  talk...  07:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I proded it a week or two ago for the same reasons as smashville but it was removed and I was waiting till I had more time to afd it. But looks like smash took care of it for me. -Djsasso (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Although the demographics of the NHL would be of some interest, this list has all manner of problems that put it in the "try again" category. More players come from Canada than anywhere else, followed by the U.S., Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland, Russia and Slovakia, that's fine.  The New Jersey Devils had more Americans, Detroit more Swedes, Edmonton and Calgary were more Canadian, OK.  One problem is the word had -- how do you maintain something like this, given the transactions that happen every day?  And who's the British guy playing for Minnesota, or the South Korean Islander?  I understand it was done by a player search, which puts it in original synthesis (with problems above as Nurmosk notes).  The NHL guide or nhl.com probably does a similar list, but I can't see this as a keeper. Mandsford (talk) 14:42, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I really find these types of lists unmaintainable. People should categorize the players' nationalities as an alternative. I could possibly see this list for old (retired) players, but not active. It will never be accurate. Timneu22 (talk) 16:04, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OR. It confuses the locale of birth with nationality. Its unmaintainable. ccwaters (talk) 16:10, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete After trying to create some order to the list, I've seen how impossible it truly is to keep it accurate. The massive hurdles of defining player nationality and who is considered active makes for a difficult list to maintain. Kaiser matias (talk) 19:26, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails WP:LC items 6 and 8-11. Stifle (talk) 19:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete the "british" MN player is Owen Nolan...Actually was Irish born in...Belfast? but grew up in Canada..And Richard Park (whom my brother coached in Deer Wood MN at, Former North Star, Steve Jensen's Heartland Hockey Camp) is from Seoul South Korea. He used to Play for Minnesota Wild, but now Plays for the NY Islanders...Wow another coincidence "Islanders" see above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.173.89.154 (talk) 20:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


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