Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adam McCune (columnist)


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The result was delete. North America1000 02:14, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Adam McCune (columnist)

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Zero reliable sources identifiable by thorough Google search. — swpb T 13:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete He won an award for columnists who write in papers with low circulation. This is like standing up and shouting "hey, I just do not make an impact."John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:12, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment McCune wrote 220 columns for the Union Leader. The Union Leader is the biggest newspaper in New Hampshire. The UL has a long history of trying to influence Presidential primary voters and candidates. Don't forget that NH is the host of the first Presidential primary every 4 years.10:20, 3 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamJE (talk • contribs)
 * Weak Keep: He is relatively young and a regional writer.  But he wrote for the New Hampshire Union Leader and the Manchester Express, which are leading newspapers in New Hampshire. 100,000 circulation is pretty good for a small state.  (The biggest paper in my entire state has a circulation of 45,000) That can be a pretty good impact in a region that isn't dominated by a major metro area.  Montanabw (talk)  03:47, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * If he were so notable, one would be able to find at least one RS. Without them, we cannot keep the article, as you (should) know well by now. — swpb T 15:00, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The sources are adequately reliable, he really IS a writer, he really did work for these newspapers, one can easily pull up some of his work there, and he really did win the award. So WP:BASIC is met.  The question is not verification or reliability, the question is if what he has done rises to notability.  I voted "weak keep" because I think it's a marginal case.  But where sources exist, there exists a presumption of notability, so when in doubt, we keep.  A statement like "zero reliable sources" is simply not true.  There are reliable sources.  The argument that he writes for newspapers that are not in a major metro area is a red herring-- these small New Hampshire papers do a great deal every four years to select the President of the United States; their impact reaches far beyond their circulation.  So, the real question is if he has done enough to be notable and that is the question we need to debate:  Is a columnist for a major state newspaper notable by dint of having worked for those papers and having won one award for his work?  If the answer is "maybe" (as here), the where and how should the line be drawn?   Montanabw (talk)  17:57, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You are still wrong, no matter how many times you say it. WP:GNG and WP:BASIC are perfectly clear. The papers this individual wrote for are not, and will never be, reliable independent sources for the establishment of notability. The size of his market is irrelevant. There are literally zero, yes zero reliable independent sources that I've seen yet with significant coverage about (no, not written by) this individual. You keep insisting they exist, but you cannot produce even one. — swpb T 19:58, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Once again, instead of arguing with me, we need to just let the process move forward and allow other individuals to comment. It would be very useful if you would simply stop laying out "red meat" remarks like "zero."  "Insufficient" or "too few" gets you to the same place and is less inflammatory... and saying "you are wrong" is also not going to win your argument, a statement such as "I disagree" is more civil.  Remember,  focus on the content, not the contributor.  Montanabw (talk)  17:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you...are you serious? The number is literally zero, but I should pretend it's something higher, to protect your feelings? If your feelings are bruised that easily, you don't belong here. The number is zero. None. Nothing. I won't bend reality for you, and neither will anyone else. — swpb T 18:58, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:NPA is policy. Disagreement in a civil fashion is policy. This is not about my feelings or yours.  I've been here longer than you have and you are not hurting my feelings.  You ARE very rude and your AfD statements are quite bullying in tone.  This has nothing to do with "reality" as you define it, it has everything to do with civility and professionalism, which, apparently, you do not understand.   Montanabw (talk)  01:20, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * JPL raised the size of the market the journalist was writing in. That's why Montana addressed it. That said, Delete. Fails WP:JOURNALIST. I couldn't find any independent coverage of McCune. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamJE (talk • contribs)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 10:49, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete Fails WP:JOURNALIST. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:25, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, jcc (tea and biscuits) 14:32, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete I really can't find much, here's his final column .E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:24, 17 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete -- a non-notable columnist. My searches do not turn up enough sources to meet GNG. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:09, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per others – in the absence of significant coverage in reliable secondary sources, he does not meet notability criteria. Citobun (talk) 15:51, 24 August 2016 (UTC)


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