Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adam Young


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Owl City. Courcelles (talk) 19:40, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Adam Young

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Advertorially toned and almost entirely primary sourced WP:BLP of a musician whose one-man-band pseudonym already has an article. Literally nothing here suggests or reliably sources any conceivable reason why we could possibly need two separate articles about him-as-Owl-City and him-as-himself (especially given that him-as-himself is still mostly about him-as-Owl-City.) Redirect to Owl City. Bearcat (talk) 08:34, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 13:59, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions. North America1000 13:59, 25 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Meets WP:NBAND. The subject is interdependently notable. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:23, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The sourcing in this article is entirely to primary sources, blogs and social media content. But NMUSIC is not passed by asserting that it's passed — it's passed by reliably sourcing that it's passed, and there's no reliable sourcing about him as a topic in his own right independently of the band: any RS coverage that exists about him is covering "him as Owl City", not "him as a separate topic in his own right independently of Owl City". And NMUSIC explicitly states that a musician gets a redirect to his band, not a standalone BLP as a separate topic from his band, if the sourcing for him as a separate topic is band-dependent. Bearcat (talk) 18:48, 25 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep or merge to Owl City. Certainly needs a lot of work to see what can be reliably sourced and then whether a separate article is justified, but I don't see a case for deletion/redirect without merge. --Michig (talk) 20:52, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I completely agree with this recommendation. For instance, consider the press coverage of his recent film score endeavor here and here.  While I remain skeptical that we'll find enough information to let this article stand on its own merit in terms of reliable sources, I think it would be best merged into Owl City as opposed to a simple delete and redirect.  Wizoomer95 (talk) 07:36, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * After pulling information from this article for his other band Swimming With Dolphins (band)‎, I agree that this article needs a cleanup. There's too much unreliable information, most of which is duplicated on the Owl City article anyway. (Maybe moving all of the Owl City information to its' article would be a good start.) If someone can condense it down to information from verifiable sources that focus more on Adam's personal life, film score, or other projects, I believe it should stay. Otherwise I guess a redirect to Owl City will have to do. --KiRaShi 22:54, 26 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Owl City as he's imaginably going to get mentions but all of this is still questionable for a solidly independently notable article. SwisterTwister   talk  07:34, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge to Owl City at least; but preferably, keep and improve – For the record, a merge to Owl City was proposed back in 2012, which I was indecisive about (and still am). Reviewing the state of source coverage, I'm inclined to agree that the majority of coverage discusses Young only in relation to Owl City. WP:MUSICBIO states that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases. Adam Young has done independent musical work outside of Owl City. Here are a few sources (they do mention Owl City and some make comparisons to it, but the overall main focus of each source is on the non-Owl City project):
 * Sky Sailing: Star Tribune, Billboard, Idolator, MTV, Cambio, Manilla Bulletin (HighBeam), The Virginian-Pilot (HighBeam)
 * Adam Young Scores: San Gabriel Valley Tribune, Cross Rhythms – Owl City is on hiatus at the moment to make way for this project, so it's likely we'll see additional coverage about it in the near future
 * Swimming with Dolphins: Jesusfreakhideout.com mentions Young in passing as a former member
 * It's questionable whether these projects give credence to Young's standalone notability, but they do make me opposed to redirecting without merging. They're notable enough to deserve a mention somewhere Wikipedia, be it in the Owl City article, perhaps in a new "Side projects" section, or in an Adam Young article. A great deal of the current Adam Young article is based solely upon primary sources—a lot of the PureVolume pages don't adequately verify that the composer is Adam Young. These should probably be cut. Verifiable biographical information about Young's personal life should be merged too. Mz7 (talk) 22:57, 1 March 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.