Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adam Zwig


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The only comments on point to the discussion by non-conflicted participants are the nomination and a comment in favor of deletion. No prejudice against a refund to draft if a competent editor requests it. bd2412 T 12:43, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Adam Zwig

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Seemingly not notable- while im certainly no music expert, none of the sources cited seem reliable. A cursory Google search brings up nothing. TheAwesomeHwyh (talk) 18:58, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
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* Comment In trying to verify the claim of 9 top 10 Adult Contemporary chart songs--which would qualify as a Keep-- I'm puzzled by why entering both his name and re-branded stage name "Dr. Zwig" turns up nothing on the Billboard charts website. Perhaps the search function isn't working for me? And yet as a test when I enter other names the site appears to be working fine without problems. Weird. Maybe someone else can verify this for me? ShelbyMarion (talk) 21:31, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - I pulled up the dates on his website where he announced hitting the top 10, then looked around those dates in the AC200 chart and saw no mention of him/his singles . . .  Orville1974  (talk) 22:11, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment:  I don't think it's the Billboard Adult Contemporary chart that's being cited here... I think it's the Mediabase AC Top 200 (now Top 50). Note that this article and that of Elizaveta Khripounova are/were the only two articles created and maintained by "ScoopPR" before that editor was blocked, presumably for promotional activities. Richard3120 (talk) 02:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: ScoopPR seemingly isn't the only UPE to have edited this article as yesterday at the Teahouse,  claimed that they are the "social media manager" for Adam Zwig. TheAwesomeHwyh (talk) 02:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment:Also on a unrelated note, did anyone else notice that the comments on this page didn't appear until commented on it? It was still in the source but you could only see it by clicking on the "View History" tab and click on the (then) current revision. I don't think I've ever seen that glitch before. TheAwesomeHwyh (talk) 02:41, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

When posting a question on a forum I may have mispoken. I am not the Social Media manager for the artist. The artist's team reached out to see if I knew how to move their page because the artist was changing his artistic name and wanted the page to be accurate. eduardof95 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduardof95 (talk • contribs) 02:45, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Is there any reason they reached out to you in particular? The first thing you did on this account was edit the page, so did you have some prior experience on a previous account? TheAwesomeHwyh (talk) 02:50, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, you called them your client at the Teahouse. TheAwesomeHwyh (talk) 02:54, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am a social media manager, but not theirs. They reached out because I do other types of work pertaining to social media content and they wondered if I knew how. So I reached out in the forum. I noticed there were some mistakes here and there and fixed them for them. But they havent instructed me to do any of those changes. They just wanted to see if the page move was possible, since he was making the change in his name as an artist. Prior to this, I hadn't had an account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduardof95 (talk • contribs) 02:57, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks . By the way, please sign your comments with four tildes in a row (a tilde is the "~" symbol), and indent your replies with a ":". I have indented your reply here properly. Thanks, now this AfD should really get back on topic! TheAwesomeHwyh (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Richard3120, thank you for the clarification. As the multiple top 10 rankings mentioned in the article were the only compelling reasons for a keep, but those rankings are not based on reliable charts (Record charts/Billboard charts guide), the article's subject doesn't meet WP:MUSICBIO.  Orville1974  (talk) 03:37, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

1. There are several comments stating that the references are unreliable. I have analyzed each one and they all link to easily found online articles written about him by legitimate media outlets. None of the 14 references link to his website as one commenter claimed. Reference #2 however, needs a full citation to make clear. 2. The commenters are searching for the wrong radio charts. tried to correct the comments by referring to Mediabase which is in the right direction but still inaccurate. These are FMQB AC Top 10 chartings which are posted monthly online. Currently FMQB only does Top 40 and AAA but at the dates of these chartings they did AC, as well. Perhaps Wikipedia needs to contact FMQB to gain a better understanding of how their charts work and to verify the source. The correct charts are on his website probably because FMQB does not archive past AC charts online. ReneClemmer (talk) 04:46, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have read through the discussions on this page and many of the comments are inaccurate. Please allow me to correct them:
 * Comment: I am closing the discussion pertaining to the radio charts since no one has been talking about the correct charts nor seems to have any knowledge of how radio works. Simply looking for general Billboard charts shows a lack of understanding. The commenters didn't even differentiate between sales and airplay. WIkipedia needs to update their guides with respect to radio airplay. Contact FMBQ directly for proper information on their past work with AC charts (they currently do Top 40 and AAA). ReneClemmer (talk) 02:02, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - ReneClemmer, I don't know what you mean by you're closing the discussion,but if you'd like to argue for the acceptability/inclusion of FMQB charts, the best place to do so would be on this page: . As of now, Wikipedia does not consider them a reliable source.  Orville1974  (talk) 04:39, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Notice - User:ReneClemmer (who left the comments above) has been blocked. Since this deletion discussion began, there have also been two other editors (both brand new accounts), one an IP editor, and one a logged in editor that have removed the AfD and COI templates multiple times.  Orville1974  (talk) 05:53, 8 June 2019 (UTC)


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