Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adams Crossroads, Delaware (2nd nomination)


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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  21:45, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Adams Crossroads, Delaware
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Previous AFD closed under the mistaken belief that names in the GNIS are automatically notable, but the aerial and topo are clear this is just a crossroads. The few newspapers.com results refer to it in passing as a reference point, not a notable community. Reywas92Talk 23:02, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Reywas92Talk 23:02, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Delaware-related deletion discussions. Reywas92Talk 23:02, 9 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Does not meet WP:GEOLAND since the coverage consists of passing mentions. MrsSnoozyTurtle 23:55, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete No sign of a notable community here; coverage consists of passing mentions and entries in lists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlthewave (talk • contribs)
 * I'm not convinced by Eddy's sources. GNG requires that the sources cover the source directly and in detail; these only seem to be passing mentions. What would we actually be able to say about this place if we were to expand the article? –dlthewave ☎ 03:26, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Some sources, such as   , including at least three people who lived there, indicate that this is a community. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 11:58, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, as settlement per Delaware Place Names, and cites which mention its residents.Djflem (talk) 05:49, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:36, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - even if it seems to have existed as a location where few people had lived, that does not guarantee notability (aerials and such still suggest it's primarily a crossroads that happens to have about 5 houses). The location fails GNG and GEOLAND as there's no significant coverage or legal recognition - as Reywas92 pointed out, GNIS does not count. ev iolite   (talk)  16:55, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Do aerials or topos cited in the nomination count? They would not be used for notability, but are being cited for not-notability and thus, should be equally ignored. Djflem (talk) 16:10, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I just used the maps to verify that there was no actual human community there. Even if you disregard it, just because a community may exist does not mean that it is notable; especially as the only mentions people have found are simple mentions of people living near the crossroads or large databases using flawed GNIS data (it mentions the "US Board of Geographic Names"), I am inclined to say that this specific one is not. No WP:SIGCOV anywhere. ev iolite   (talk)  16:58, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep: Looking at the newspaper sources given by Eddy above, three of them look fine, although one is questionable (it's just mentioning that Adams Crossroads exists in a gazetteer), and one doesn't mention it as a populated place (unless I'm missing something). My own search turns up the clippings mentioned above, plus these two: . This does seem to establish that a number of people lived there at some point, and it was enough of a community to refer to it as such (note that they all say "lived in Adams Crossroads", not "lived at Adams Crossroads" or "lived by Adams Crossroads"). jp×g 23:33, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * According to WP:GEOLAND Populated places without legal recognition are considered on a case-by-case basis in accordance with the GNG. [...] [They] could be considered notable on a case-by-case basis, given non-trivial coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. 5 people who had lived there at some point dying over the last century is not non-trivial coverage and would not be enough to pass GNG.
 * Even with that, I don't believe any of the sources besides [1] and [5] indicate a community (which both only say "[person] of Adams Crossroads"). Your own note at the end disqualifies "Mrs. Jason H. Reed", which does say "at Adams Crossroads", while [4] and "Mrs. Walter M. Adams" specifically refer to the "Adams Crossroads section", which is just any square mile of land and not necessarily a community. Thanks, ev iolite   (talk)  23:47, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:40, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - I think Eddy makes a good case here. His collection of sources surely gives us a justification to invoke WP:GEOFEAT. Patiodweller (talk) 19:25, 25 October 2021 (UTC)


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