Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adelanto Junction (Amtrak Thruway Motorcoach station)


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The result was   delete. Nothing to merge, really... If anyone is willing to do the work, I can provide the content. Tone 21:36, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Adelanto Junction (Amtrak Thruway Motorcoach station)

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This is just a curb-side bus stop, just like hundreds of thousands of others around the world. All that can encyclopaedically be said is that the settlement is served by Thruway Motorcoach.", which can be said in fewer words on the Thruway Motorcoach article and the article about the settlement. Railway stations are notable, bus stations can be, but except in truly exceptional circumstances bus shelters are not. Thryduulf (talk) 19:08, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree completely. Adelanto, CA is not a little insignificant "settlement".  It has a population of 18,000 and home to George Air Force Base.  kgrr  talk 21:05, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean that the settlement is not significant. My comment was that all that can be encyclopaedically said about the subject of this article (i.e. the bus stop) is that the settlement is served by the coach. I apologise for not making that clearer. Thryduulf (talk) 08:48, 18 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 19:08, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 19:08, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * delete and burn with fire this could snowball horribly, no way can wikipedia have an article on every bus shelter in the world --UltraMagnusspeak 21:04, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not a valid argument. Please see [WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS] "When used properly, a logical rationalization of "Other Stuff Exists" may be used in a perfectly valid manner in discussions of what articles to create, delete, or retain." Many, many other Amtrak Thruway articles already exist.  It is notable because it's the only Amtrak Thruway stop in Victorville, CA. Adelanto Junction is a stop for Amtrak California Motor Coach service connecting Amtrak California's San Joaquin trains in Bakersfield with stops in the high desert area northwest of the City of Los Angeles including Mojave, Lancaster, Palmdale, and Victorville.   kgrr  talk 21:05, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge to appropriate Amtrak route. -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 22:44, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thruway Motorcoach stops don't always follow Amtrak routes. Often the stops are used to carry passengers from one Amtrak station to another through an area where there is no Amtrak service.  This route is used to connect Southwest Chief and Amtrak California's San Joaquin trains in Bakersfield, California.  This is a bad precedent to start.  kgrr  talk 21:05, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, figure this. The Thruway coaches, from what I see, will either 1) spur off a mainline to feed areas that have demand for service but are off the beaten track, as it were, 2) connecting two rail routes as you point out, or 3) used as an ersatz route replacement when the need arises for whatever reason (breakdown, track failure, maintentance, phase of moon, etc.).  Here, I work off of 1, and that is my rationale for the merge.  Granted, there's not much to merge, except that there's a thruway station in Adelanto CA. =) -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 05:34, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Torch it/delete it: Absolutely non-notable bus stop. Fails WP:LOCAL. --Triadian (talk) 03:34, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree. kgrr  talk 21:05, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The presented arguments thusfar in my opinion do not satisfy the notability requirements per WP:LOCAL. We need independent sources to show that this is notable, not just that it exists. Also, see WP:TOWN as a good outline of what I'm trying to convey, particularly the part about "run of the mill" places. Being the only stop in Victorville may be a fact that can fit into the Victorville article, but does not pass the guideline for article existence. --Triadian (talk) 23:23, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge, as recommended by Dennisthe2.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 09:58, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree.  kgrr  talk 21:16, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge to Adelanto, California just like the Littlerock, California stop up the street. See LOCAL  kgrr  talk 21:17, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and merge - no indication that this meets any criteria of WP:N. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 21:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
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