Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adele Augusta Ayer Gardner


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The result was No consensus, default to Keep. Wal ton  Need some help?  17:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Adele Augusta Ayer Gardner

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Seriously, are all relations of famous men notable? Gareth E Kegg 09:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT. --Dhartung | Talk 09:32, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. No, they are not. But the grandmother of a President of the United States who helped raise him? Well, yes, I'm inclined to think so. This isn't random, indiscriminate information: it's not President Ford's half-brother's best friend's mailman or the grandmother of the random celebrity-du-jour we're talking about here. -- Seed 2.0 11:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per above she helped raise Gerald Ford and is the reason that Ford wound up in Grand Rapids. Americasroof 13:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep but : OK, point taken, but it took multiple re-readings of the article to spot that detail. This lack of clarity is probably the reason for the AFD. So to get this straight - her daughter's marriage split up, so the daughter-plus-child came to live at her house, and that child was President-Ford-to-be? I've added an explanatory line to the intro. Tearlach 17:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * To be fair, I can see where you're coming from. I think I only noticed that detail because it's something I already knew. -- Seed 2.0 18:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There was also an odd reference to "the Leslie's parent's home" that I've amended. It looks a lot clearer now who was who. Tearlach 19:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep (now that article has been clarified) as ancestor of an American president. Krakatoa  Katie  07:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete It was her who raised him, but he who made himself become President! Why shouldn't her grandmother have an article on this basis? Gareth E Kegg 11:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete for now, but might change to keep if information can be added on her relationship with her grandson. As of writing this the external source was offline, so additional sources should be found. Bjelleklang -  talk  Bug Me  03:17, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
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