Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adele Roberts


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete and recreate a redirect. Pascal.Tesson 00:38, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Adele Roberts

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 * Strong Delete. A non-noteable Reality TV contestant who has achieve nothing since the programme finished and did not make any significant contribution to the programme while she featured in it-failing WP:NOTE and WP:BIO The article has been re-directed to Big Brother 2002 (UK) various times, but these edits have always been reverted by one user-Princess Bobie. This is a single-purpose account whose only aim appears to be promoting the Roberts article. WP:BB guides that such articles like this should be re-directed, but this user appears to disagree. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 17:00, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete and redir to Big Brother 2002 (UK) and fullprot if necessary. /Blaxthos 17:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT - Known only for 1 event, and that is to appear on a reality show.  I do not think that's historic notability Corpx 20:05, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete; yet another reality show nonwinner. Consensus seems to be that simply having participated is not adequate to satisfy WP:BIO.  Heather 23:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. She's had her 15 minutes of fame. There's no long-term historical notability here. --Malcolmxl5 00:11, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect and protect NN. Saikokira 01:25, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Protect I am the original author of this article. I disagree with the argument made by “dalejenkins”, “A non-noteable Reality TV contestant” who “did not make any significant contribution to the programme”, Adele Roberts was voted number one on “Big Brother’s Best Moments” on Channel 4 for the argument with Jade Goody. In response to the comment that she has “achieved nothing since the programme finished”, Miss Roberts has been presenting the Smooth Grooves show on 97.4Rock fm for five years (hardly an achievement of a ‘flash-in-the-pan reality TV contestant), a sister-station of Kiss Radio and member of the Emap group, which, in it’s latest RAJAR figures, was found to have more listeners than the Tim Westwood show(widely regarded as the best in his field) for her TSA, even more impressive when it is taken into account that it was in direct competition as both shows aired at the same time. I wrote this article as a listener to Miss Roberts’ show and as I was researching her for a project and thought this listing would be helpful to others to use for similar purposes. It was not intended as a ‘promotional’ article or to magnify her ‘fame’. As far as I am aware, Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia intended to gather information on a vast variety of subjects, people, places etc. so it is a readily available source of learning. It is NOT however a measure of ‘fame’ or ‘celebrity’ by a person’s appearance on it and so I believe an article should not be removed purely because some users have personal dislikes or believe they are “not famous enough”. Adele Roberts could be a relevant article on Wikipedia for her job alone with no reference to Big Brother, this can be seen in the number of links on her page to other Wiki articles e.g. Artists she has interviewed and had as guests on her show (eg.50 cent, Akon, Alicia Keys, Usher, Jamie Foxx etc). I am a new user on Wikipedia, I apologise if this is a somewhat ‘hefty’ response! Not used to Wiki etiquette yet! Princess Bobie 21:28, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. That is no reason to keep the article. It reads like a trivia page-which is one of the things that Wikipedia is not. Long long unsourced lists of artists who have appeared on a radio show-many artists appear on radio shows-some are impossible to list and source. You say "Adele Roberts was voted number one on “Big Brother’s Best Moments” on Channel 4 for the argument with Jade Goody". Where is this in the article? Where is the source? You say she has more listeners that Westwood. Where is this in the article? Where is the source? You say that Westwood is considered "as the best in his field". Where is this in the article? Where is the source? Does this fail WP:POV? The article also fails WP:TRIVIA and WP:BIO. It also fails WP:N. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 09:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I completely agree with your comments that some facts need backing up; the article is a work in progress (as I said I'm new to wikipedia & still finding my feet) & I still have lots to add to the page. As you've pointed out surely the article needs more sources adding rather than deletion? Thanks for your advice Dale I'll get to work backing up a few of my facts! Princess Bobie 11:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep IIF the "Various TV" presenting roles can be expanded upon and sourced. I'd also like to see the ILR radio gig sourced. Both are notable roles outside of Big Brother that would normally warrant an article.  The JPS talk to me  18:18, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


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