Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Administrative divisions of the Donetsk People's Republic


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The result was delete. The "keep" case is weak: it makes reference only to publications by this self-declared government. These are not sources that are independent from the subject of the article, and therefore not reliable sources. In the absence of such sources, WP:V mandates deletion.  Sandstein  19:30, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Administrative divisions of the Donetsk People's Republic

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This is an unreferenced fork of Donetsk People's Republic, which cites only unreliable sources; unencyclopedic; it’s like WP:SYNTH but not from reliable sources, giving the appearance of legitimacy to a fake country; borderline WP:HOAX. This information is not found in WP:reliable sources

This is a detailed expansion of a decree by the “authorities” in a Russian puppet state in Ukraine about territories they only partially control, which can be summed up in a single line in the main article: “the DNR authorities issued a decree rejecting Ukraine's 2020 reform of administrative divisions in Donetsk Oblast and only recognize the older division into raions: see Administrative divisions of Donetsk Oblast.”

See also Articles for deletion/Administrative divisions of the Luhansk People's Republic. —Michael Z. 03:14, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions.  —Michael Z. 03:14, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: No sources cited, and much of this territory is not even in their control. ― Tartan357  Talk 03:18, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. A decree of the head of DPR is a reliable source for the administrative division of DPR - which currently controls most of Donestk oblast. The official Ukrainian administrative division is different and it should be, and is, described in another article. The fact that DPR isn't recognised is irrelevant, other unrecognised states have articles about their administrative divisions, e.g., Administrative divisions of Somaliland. Alaexis¿question? 08:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The self-published decree by Kremlin proxies is only a source on the decree, and not on facts. It can be summarized by a single sentence in a parent article. I can publish a decree that I am the King of Siam, but that doesn’t rate a Wikipedia article. WP:Notability requires “significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.” The self-appointed head of the DNR is the subject, not a WP:reliable source.
 * The Somaliland list, not article, has not be assessed, and cannot be used as a precedent. It appears to lack reliable secondary sources. —Michael Z. 15:07, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:25, 15 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  03:43, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: as Per Alaexis Cryw 9 (talk) 03:00, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - This article (1) serves no tangible purpose and (2) can be described as fringe. The comparison between Donetsk PR and Somaliland is quite frankly offensive. The Somaliland situation is entirely different; it is a civil dispute with Somalia, with no obvious foreign interference. On the other hand, Donetsk PR is clearly a puppet state of Russia in Ukraine, which classifies it as an example of Russian imperialism rather than a civil Ukrainian dispute. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 06:53, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.