Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Administrative divisions of the Luhansk People's Republic


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. As in Articles for deletion/Administrative divisions of the Donetsk People's Republic: The "keep" case is weak: it makes reference only to publications by this self-declared government. These are not sources that are independent from the subject of the article, and therefore not reliable sources. In the absence of such sources, WP:V mandates deletion.  Sandstein  09:42, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Administrative divisions of the Luhansk People's Republic

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This is an unreferenced fork of Luhansk People's Republic, which cites only unreliable sources; unencyclopedic; it’s like WP:SYNTH but not from reliable sources, giving the appearance of legitimacy to a fake country; borderline WP:HOAX. This information is not found in WP:reliable sources

This is a detailed expansion of a decree by the “authorities” in a Russian puppet state in Ukraine about territories they only partially control, which can be summed up in a single line in the main article: “the DNR authorities issued a decree rejecting Ukraine's 2020 reform of administrative divisions in Luhansk Oblast and only recognize the older division into raions: see Administrative divisions of Luhansk Oblast.”

See also Articles for deletion/Administrative divisions of the Donetsk People's Republic. —Michael Z. 03:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions.  —Michael Z. 03:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Oppose. The state statistical service A decree of the head of LNR is a reliable source for the administrative division of LNR - which currently controls the entirety of Luhansk oblast. The official Ukrainian administrative division is different and it should be, and is, described in another article. The fact that LNR isn't recognised is irrelevant, other unrecognised states have articles about their administrative divisions, e.g., Administrative divisions of Somaliland. Alaexis¿question? 08:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * A single primary source doesn’t indicate WP:Notability of the subject. You think the encyclopedia needs an article on every decree signed by Pasechnik? —Michael Z. 14:10, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If the question is about the notability of the topic, I think that there is a precedent in Wikipedia that the administrative division of states, including unrecognised ones, is a notable topic.
 * By the way, multiple Russian secondary sources reported on this decree, e.g. Interfax. Alaexis¿question? 17:19, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Russian sources are under a draconian régime of censorship, and are not reliable on Ukraine, the Russian war in Ukraine, or the Kremlin’s proxies there. If only Russian sources report on this, then that is not an indicator of WP:Notability (and perhaps a positive counter-indication), which requires sources “that are independent of the subject.” See Media freedom in Russia. —Michael Z. 14:52, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 10:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:18, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: as Per Alaexis Cryw 9 (talk) 03:08, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 20:36, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Again, this article is both (1) useless and (2) fringe. It should be deleted promptly. The comparison to Somaliland is extremely offensive. Apples to oranges, people. Somaliland isn't a puppet state of some larger empire. It is a part of the ethnic-Somali realm that broke away due to a civil dispute with other Somalis in the rest of Somalia, essentially. There is no obvious foreign agent operating in Somaliland; their cause for independence is almost entirely domestic. The same cannot be said about Luhansk PR, which has been firmly under Russia's grip from the very beginning. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 07:02, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.