Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adria Tour


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ~ Amkgp  💬  15:39, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Adria Tour

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Non-notable exhibition tournament. It's not an official ATP event, just a warm up event with a few notable individuals. WP:NOTINHERITED certainly applies here Joseph2302 (talk) 11:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 11:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep It is an event that has received extensive coverage in mainstream media. Therefore, it meets WP:N.


 * Largoplazo (talk) 12:07, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * All of this "tournament coverage" is actually just about it being a Djokovic-created event, and Grigor Dimitrov (and some others) catching coronavirus. Neither of which are reasons to keep this article about an exhibition tennis tournament, per WP:NOTINHERITED. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 12:19, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * In other words, "It has substantial coverage in mainstream independent reliable sources only because of reasons I'm choosing to discount for some reason". We're concerned only with the "has substantial coverage in mainstream independent reliable sources" part. Our evaluation of the notability of a subject doesn't include our personal opinions of whether the topic should have received coverage, as long as it did. Largoplazo (talk) 12:44, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Nope, that's a blatent misrepresentation of what I said. Notable tennis players catching coronavirus has substantial coverage, but the tournament itself doesn't. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 12:48, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The whole point of the coverage is that the tournament was the subject of controversy and scrutiny in connection with both concerns over coronavirus and the actual aftermath. The name of the tournament is even in all the headlines. Largoplazo (talk) 12:50, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep There are also numerous sources discussing the event itself (although the COVID breakout there also adds to notability).  Zellfire999 (talk) 12:40, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep It received very extensive coverage before the coronavirus hype exploded. And internationally. Plus, it is not just a regular warm-up event for obvious reasons. The fact that it has been played during these times of non-ATP sanctioned events has made it far more notable than most exhibition tournaments, as almost all of them have to share their coverage with official tournaments due to the length of the ATP calendar. Also, it has been streamed on Tennis Channel and Eurosport, which is very uncommon for a non-official event (only Abu Dhabi comes to my mind right now, at least concerning Eurosport). And last but not least, it has featured not only World number 1, but also two other top 10 players, among other undoubtedly notable players (unlike, let's say, the Generali Austrian Pro Series). WTC7812 (talk) 22:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep As per the above this has received extensive coverage from independent third party sources such that it is sufficient to meet general notability guidelines. A quick google search shows that there has been a lot of press coverage of this event (both as an event and as a result of coronavirus)Tracland (talk) 06:40, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Think argument for closure is weak. ATP tour is not happening due to COVID, this and Ultimate Tennis are its replacements until it resumes. Secondly notable as some of the first events back during the pandemic which allowed crowds in. All refs are independent. Deleting this page is like deleting history that has happened. The only other option is to merge these events into one article called Pandemic Tennis Competitions.User:Davidstewartharvey
 * Keep As per the above. --IndexAccount (talk) 11:37, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Massive coverage in reliable sources, the event and its aftermath have become a hot topic in public debate, even in political circles.—J. M. (talk) 14:12, 27 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep This is a frivolous request. There is no ridiculous "rule" on Wikipedia that automatically bans all tennis exhibition articles no matter what, just because they are not part of the WTA or ATP tour. Once upon a time even those tour tournaments consisted of exhibitions. In any case Adria Tour is notable enough on its own. --Loginnigol (talk) 13:30, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This isn't frivolous, in my opinion the coverage is about the players getting coronavirus and lack of social distancing and there's insufficient sources actually about the tournament. Please don't be belittling of other editors. And I still believe that is the case, though I respect the consensus disagrees with me. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 19:29, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That's like saying Umberto's Clam House isn't really notable because little coverage was given to the food they served. Things are allowed to be notable for reasons unrelated to their core being. Largoplazo (talk) 19:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Or like insisting Catherine O'Leary isn't notable because other than being blamed for the great Chicago Fire and the owner of a much-ballyhooed cow, she was an unremarkable Irish immigrant in Chicago. Largoplazo (talk) 19:58, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep This event has caused controversy for its lack of social distancing protocols and the fact that at least three players caught coronavirus. Definitely notable. MasterMind5991 (talk) 12:09, 29 June 2020 (UTC)


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