Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Advanced commando combat system


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep - Consensus agrees that the blackbeltcombat.tripod.com site posts copies of sufficient reliable source material for the topic to meet the General notability guideline. -- Jreferee    t / c  17:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Advanced commando combat system

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Advert. Almost a speedy but not blatant enough. Done minor cleaning but would need sourcing of notability claims to be worth keeping. Nate1481(t/c) 11:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of martial arts-related deletions.  -- Nate1481(t/c) 11:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Needs secondary, verifiable sources. -- Blind  Eagle  talk ~ contribs  16:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep notable and source-able . JJL 13:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep notable and source-able. Dear Friends The ACCS is a well respected system of military martial arts popular with Indian Army. It appears that there is a group of individuals who are biased towards it and keep recommending it for deletion.  The website www.commandocombat.com or http://blackbeltcombat.tripod.com stands testimony to the fact that :  (A) This art has received official appreciation of the Indian Army chief ( Ref- Scan Letter http://blackbeltcombat.tripod.com/id59.html )  (B) This art has been received by many special forces like Garud, Para, Delta, Counter Terror forces, National Security Guard (Ref- Scan Letter http://blackbeltcombat.tripod.com/id56.html )  (C) ACCS has received many acknowledgements, Trophies & awards from Special Forces (Ref- Scan Letter http://blackbeltcombat.tripod.com/id132.html)  (D) The founders have been endorsed by State Intelligence department (Ref- Scan Letter http://blackbeltcombat.tripod.com/id60.html )  ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE OFFICIAL SCANNED DOCUMENTS FROM INDIAN FORCE HQS and not personal advertisements as may be alleged.  So the proposition that this page sounds like an advertisement needs to be corrected. Most organizations promoting Krav Maga donot have letters from top brass of government forces other than from sergeants and Police.  ACCS has scanned letters from Chiefs of Army Staff in 2001, 2003 and also a letter endorsing it from the present Indian Army Chief Gen Deepak Kapoor while he was Army commander of most significant command (Ref- http://blackbeltcombat.tripod.com/id114.html )  Wikipedia must refrain from highlighting seargents who harp about their "new" systems derived from known systems like BJJ and Wikipedians must open their mind to newer systems gaining ground with second largest army in the world.  -- Regds Col Sharma (retd) Indian Special Forces  —Preceding Teacherpreacher 04:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC). (talk • contribs) 13:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)  — Teacherpreacher (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  --  Jreferee    t / c  17:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment http://blackbeltcombat.tripod.com is a site promoting the UCCA which offer courses in ACCS and implies that it is the only organisation allowed to do so, it is there for a primary source. --Nate1481(t/c) 15:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Yes, but http://blackbeltcombat.tripod.com/id53.html indicates that there are many secondary sources--in The Indian Express (18 June 200?), the Sunday Express (3 July 2005), etc. JJL 17:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree on that, some of those are about the UCCA teaching other things than ACCS (JKD for example). If kept needs some work on the tone as it is promotional currently. --Nate1481(t/c) 09:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have now signed the above article, penned by me, sorry I was not aware Regds Col Sharma Teacherpreacher 04:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC).


 * Keep - notable and source-able The following link highlights the achievements and sources of various citations received in their endeavor. http://jkdmumbai.tripod.com/id38.html   These articles are in National Newspapers, National & International TV like BBC, NBC, Canadian TV, etc. & also various magazines. Righead 5:18 PM, Thursday, October 04, 2007  —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 17:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)  — Righead (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  --  Jreferee    t / c  17:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Note This comment is the above users only contribution. --Nate1481(t/c) 10:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * What has that got to do with the subject discussion? - Righead —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 06:29, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.