Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Advent Bangun


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The result was   keep.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 23:34, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Advent Bangun

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unreferenced, notability not established, very short article, no external links  Breawycker (talk to me!) 19:39, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I already tagged it for speedy deletion before you nominated this JDOG555 (talk) 19:41, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There was a claim of notability on the talk-page (posted to dispute the speedy tag). It's a reasonable claim (though uncited), so I declined the speedy (tagged for lack of asserted notability). However, it's uncited, so we're at best in WP:BLPPROD land (I tagged as such). I also found his entry in the Indonesian wikipedia and added an interwiki link. That article is unreferenced (lists lots of films but they only appear "to exist" and some of those articles have IMDB and other sources that he is in them) but no independent in-depth review of this person as a notable star or a major force in major productions (rather than just existing and perhaps often-appearing in films of uncertain en.wp notability). I have to !vote delete for now because I don't have any references handy, but would certainly change that if RS for personal notability are provided. DMacks (talk) 20:31, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
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Keep: Passes GNG and WP:ACTOR. There are 24 GNews hits ( and 239 GBooks Hits about him. Despite of the difficult translation, many sources seem to confirm the claim that he was an Indonesian major movie star in the 80's. For example this article on Kapan Lagi says that him and Barry Prima struggled to be the most popular actors in 80's/beginning of 90's ("mantan aktor laga seangkatan Barry Prima dan Advent Bangun di era 80-an sampai 90-an"). this one basically says the same ("Pada era '80-an hingga '90-an film-film yang dibintangi Barry Prima maupun Advent Bangun sangat mudah ditemukan"). One article in Galamedia clearly says that he "starred in several blockbusters" (" membintangi sejumlah film laris"), this article's opening sentence is: "After the glory days of Barry Prima and Advent Bangun in the 80s era" ("Setelah masa-masa kejayaan Barry Prima dan Advent Bangun di era 80-an"), one other article opening sentence says: "Perfilman Indonesia sempat diramaikan dengan aktor-aktor laga seperti Barry Prima, Advent Bangun, George Rudy dll.", ie "Indonesian cinemas were crowded with action actors such Barry Prima, Advent Bangun, George Rudy, etc.."... --Cavarrone (talk) 06:43, 5 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - The sourcing found by Cavarrone (thanks!) is sufficient to show that the person was a major star of Indonesian cinema of the 80's. Given the time period, and language barrier, good sources are likely to be offline and require somebody proficient in Indonesian to improve the article -- Whpq (talk) 16:48, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Changing my !vote to keep now that there are some independent and reliable sources that support personal notability. Please incorporate into article. DMacks (talk) 17:27, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
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