Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Advent Christian Church (Eau Gallie, Florida)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   move to incubator, per request of major author. Since the article's content isn't grossly inappropriate and a major author suggested that it's saveable, I'll grant the request to move the article with talk page to the incubator and delete the redirect in main-space. --Deryck C. 22:15, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Advent Christian Church (Eau Gallie, Florida)

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I don't see why this particular church is worth having an article for... the only source for this article is a self-printed marker on the side of the church... BelloWello (talk) 01:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete for a lack of references that would establish its notability. Prsaucer1958 (talk) 01:18, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, the marker is not self printed - it's a historical marker from Brevard County. FieldMarine (talk) 04:49, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * My bad. It didn't look like the historical markers that are officially produced around here... Either way, does a lone historical marker endow notability? I'd like to see the policy for that. BelloWello (talk) 05:15, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * IMHO, the historical marker itself does not. It’s more the fact that an independent organization deemed it notable enough to put one there that serves as a source to establish notability. FieldMarine (talk) 05:58, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Since when does having had a historical marker put up about it signify notability? BelloWello (talk) 02:26, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete - Article might have images and an historical marker, but there is nothing here establishing notability and no references. --Whiteguru (talk) 23:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. No notability in third party sources. Binksternet (talk) 08:24, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete No notability. No published sources. The pictured "historical marker" does not say who erected it, and would not count as a published source in any case. -- Donald Albury 17:37, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Request move, I request to have this article move to the incubator. I believe I can address the concerns about lack of sources from info at the local library.  Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 10:58, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think the problem here is how the article is written, which would be the reason for moving it to the incubator. The problem is the lack of reliable sources establishing the notability of the subject. That problem cannot be fixed in the incubator. If someone can find reliable sources that establish notability for the subject, the article can be re-created. -- Donald Albury 13:34, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I know I can find reliable sources about this church & its notability that are not electronic that are available in the local library. However, this will take time to obtain them & I'm asking for an opportunity to do so.  Being in the incubator takes it off-line, so I see no harm done in that.  Thanks & Semper Fi!  FieldMarine (talk) 14:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Why don't you just move it into your userspace and work on it there? BelloWello (talk) 06:07, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * My understanding is in cases like this, incubator is prefered to a userspace. For one thing, it allows multiple people to work on the article.  FieldMarine (talk) 13:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.