Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adventist Health Castle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:11, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Adventist Health Castle

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Apparently non-notable minor hospital in the Adventist Health group. No independent sources in the page, and no in-depth coverage in independent reliable sources that I've been able to identify. Redirect has been attempted and reverted.

This is part of what appears to be an extensive programme of promotion of various non-notable units of Adventist Health carried out by a number of WP:COI editors. It may not be the only one of those that doesn't merit an article here. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:12, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:12, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:12, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep this is a notable hospital that has received a reward from the federal government, the award is the Malcolm Baldrige National Quality Award. I've added information from the National Institute of Standards and Technology; Hawaii House of Representatives; Honolulu Star-Advertiser; Hawaii News Now; Los Angeles Business Journal; PBS Hawaii and the Pacific Business News which redirects to American City Business Journals. The administrator who nominated this hospital for deletion didn't look hard enough with all of the strong secondary references that I found.Catfurball (talk) 17:31, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I've looked at the references you've added and they are largely based on announcements and therefore fail WP:ORGIND. Perhaps the administrator who nominated this article is more au fait with the actual guidelines on references that can be used to establish notability?  HighKing++ 11:14, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete promotional and intended to be promotional  -- see the final paragraph in section 1, "they plan to build..." See the trivial comunity outreach in section 2, the triviality "5th Oahu hospital..." in sec. 3. See the triviality that makes up sec. 4, See the name dropping &c in the sec. 5, the award section ( "... U. S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross announced to Adventist Health Castle that they won.  The Hawaii House of Representatives on March 29, 2018 congratulated Adventist Health Castle for being nominated President Donald Trump and Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross gave Adventist Health Castle, President and CEO Kathy Raethal, and Quality Improvement Coordinator, Steve Bovey...the first from Adventist Health to be given the award from the President of the United States"--not the first to get the award ,the first to have the President be the one who presented the award. ) ( .  And it's time we started removing Heathgrades-- they have so many categories most hospitals have something to show for at least one service in at least one year, as does this--1 factor only, 1 year only.  And see other details that are purported to be encyclopedic content: "the kitchen, lobby, chapel and gift shop was enlarged".  Borderline notability plus clear promotionalism  = a good reason for deletion.  As the nom. pointed out, there are a few hundred such hospital articles to deal with, and not just from the Adventists.   DGG ( talk ) 04:02, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Saying that this article is promotional is bull. There is nothing wrong with adding a rewards section talking about the rewards, it isn't against Wikipedia rules. And it's not against Wikipedia rules to talk about construction, again this is bull. And this administrator is full of it.Catfurball (talk) 20:39, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:25, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete — A lot of minor details that seem promotional. As said earlier, the notability is questionable. I believe the promotional material is enough to make it deletable. Invalid OS (talk) 17:11, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Calling the awards section promotional is bull, like I said before it is not against Wikipedia rules to talk about awards. I've cut material out, making it shorter.Catfurball (talk) 21:23, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Not a single reference meets the criteria for establishing notability. The references are mainly announcements and/or based on announcements and therefore fail WP:ORGIND. Other references are mentions-in-passing and fail WP:CORPDEPTH. I am unable to locate any references that meet the criteria, topic therefore fails GNG and WP:NCORP.  HighKing++ 11:12, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


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