Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Advisory Commission of National and Democratic Parties


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. I'm sorry Yaloe and frankie but I disregarded your !votes because they didn't add anything to the discussion. Another "keep" !voter admitted that his !vote wasn't very strong. Add to that the nominator's admission that he was unable to evaluate non-english sources. This one's a draw. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:08, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Advisory Commission of National and Democratic Parties

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This group seems to (at least as near as I can tell) have come and gone without much impact. It generates three mentions at Google Books, zero in Google News, and most of the hits on Google in general are either Wiki mirrors or are sites that basically cue to a set of words. My best guess is that the group was a "flash in the pan" prior to the first round of elections in Afghanistan and that it never managed to do anything of note (there were a number of organziations like this in the mid-2000s in Afghanistan as near as I can tell). Even the sole source cited seems to back this up...it seems to imply that this was nothing more than a temporary working group among a group of minor parties. Tyrenon (talk) 22:16, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, notability doesn't expire over time. If a group was notable at one point, it is notable enough to have an article. This grouping was quite significant as a rallying point of various political parties. I googled in Farsi, and came up with some more links. Notably, there seems to be different version of the name circulating. I added another ref to the article, and this page has a report on a meeting of the coalition, http://www.acsf.af/reportsHTML/simin1.html . --Soman (talk) 22:52, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - If we tried hard enough, we could come up with a long list of groups that came and went but still have Wikipedia articles. I know that's not really a strong argument, but that's my inclusionist nature coming through :) --Andrew (User:90) (talk) 23:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:40, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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 * Questions to both points: 1) Was the group actually a substantial force? Again, the lack of more than a handful of non-press sources (at least, English-language; I'm not qualified to look things up in Farsi) and complete dearth of stories on GNews (at least, as far as I can tell) casts some doubt on that point.  Put another way, was this a case of a group with possible notability that just never quite broke out?  (I'd note that all but two of the parties don't have wiki-pages, though given that this is Afghanistan that's something of a poor indicator)  2) What are the other name(s) that the group had and/or might still be operating under?Tyrenon (talk) 22:04, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say that it was a quite notable regroupment, an attempt to form a 'third front' of sorts in Afghan politics. Jamil Karzai, for example, was elected to parliament. The confusion regarding the name seems to be that the coalition could be referred to not by its full name, but rather just 'National and Democratic Parties'. --Soman (talk) 18:22, 17 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B  music  ian  06:00, 22 February 2012 (UTC)




 * Keep Yaloe (talk) 04:08, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete The fact you can search for their name on Google means nothing if they haven't actually done anything to justify inclusion. Not notable - delete doktorb wordsdeeds 15:18, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

 
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, v/r - TP 20:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete flash in the pan. - Frankie1969 (talk) 11:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
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