Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aegean Conflict


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and redirect to Aegean dispute. Daniel (talk) 13:56, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Aegean Conflict

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Newly created WP:POVFORK of Aegean dispute, duplicating that article with large amount of competing coverage and trying to present the topic as if it was an actual war (with "military conflict" infobox, calling the two countries "belligerents" etc). This seems to be entirely false: during the whole of the Aegean dispute, there has not been a single confirmed case of fighter planes or vessels shooting at each other intentionally. The two alleged cases of planes being actually downed are both unsourced or not supported by the sources cited. In any case, if there were notable and sourceable instances of that sort, they could be covered in the main article. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

It seems you do not quite understand how it works, its called a conflict. It doesn't have to be a war to have info boxes nothing states such things. As for the downed planes the sources were provided and more can be added. Just because you yourself can't accept the sources does not stop them from being true when they are found in other wikipedia pages as well. This page is to be a better incite on the conflict within the aegwan in which cases its been considered an undeclared air war between the two nations. User:El Greekos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.16.96.224 (talk) 19:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. North America1000 16:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge with Aegean dispute. I only say this because the Evros River incident appears to have been a documented incident relevant to the dispute. As for all else about the article, it should be purged. It is poorly written with bad grammar and style, redundant and unsourced/unverified reports, and a stress on the minimal role that armed conflict has played in the dispute. I would also like to mention that this doesn't seem to be a POV fork; there is no indication that the author is aware of the main page. I'm not implying this is not a fork, mind you, but I think we should be careful about which fork we consider this. --Lord Dweebington1 (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * (For the record, the author was clearly aware of the main Aegean dispute article, as he unsuccessfully tried to place his "military conflict" infobox on it just prior to creating the fork.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Even more to the point, the author placed the link "Main article: Aegean dispute" at the top of the article in their very first edit here. --T*U (talk) 21:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Seeing the above two points, I'll modify my stance to delete. --Lord Dweebington1 (talk) 03:19, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, as there is nothing to merge. For the text about the Evros River incident (which is actually just copied from the target article) to be relevant in the Aegean dispute article, it would have to be sourced that the incident, that happened way inland, had a relevance to the Aegean dispute. --T*U (talk) 21:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete and Redirect to Aegean dispute, a valid search term I suppose, but this article is a WP:POVFORK, and as such I do not think the history should be kept around. Devonian Wombat (talk) 21:36, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I am not convinced that redirecting is the right solution. We also have 2020–2021 East Mediterranean crisis, which should also be included in this discussion, as that is another article on the same subject, but a bare stub.  This might be repurposed as List in incidents in Aegean dispute.  Peterkingiron (talk) 12:35, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above statements by other editors. the current article is not useful in any way. --- ❖ SilentResident ❖ (talk &#9993; &#124; contribs &#9998;) 20:42, 7 February 2021 (UTC)


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