Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aegir Hosting System


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The primary/connected source issue might have been resolved, but the claim of this topic not meeting WP:GNG has gone essentially uncontested - see Jayden Black's and Walter Görlitz's exchanges as to why it doesn't seem to be resolved. There is a suggestion of a merger, but also a weighty counterargument that the merge target isn't specific to the software (a counterargument that also extends to redirecting). So delete it is. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:14, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Aegir Hosting System

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 * Primarily sourced with WP:PRIMARY or connected sources. Fails WP:GNG. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:30, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:30, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:30, 27 May 2019 (UTC)


 * This was fixed yesterday. The bulk of primary and connected sources has been replaced by other ones, making this reason for deletion invalid.  See article history for details.  This deletion proposal can therefore be closed, leaving the article intact.  Also, this article is not a company page; it is about a free and open-source software project that's been active for more than 10 years. --Jayden Black (talk) 14:14, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I oppose deletion of the article. I support to close this proposal, and leaving the article intact. As the article was recently updated to meet Wikipedia agreements. Speaking of agreement, I agree with, this Wikipedia article is about a free and open-source software project. Which is not to confuse with a company page. Today I added those 4 additional sources. Which have little or no connection or conflict of interest with Aegir Hosting System project. Any volunteers to add more sources? All are welcome to join the discussion on this talk page. Francewhoa (talk) 02:43, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge to Drupal. The only coverage I've seen is that this is a hosting system for Drupal. Not very independently notable. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  19:54, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * If Aegir was planning to host only Drupal sites for the forseable future, a merge would make sense, but the new release, currently in development, will allow Aegir to host any application (due to the provisioner switching from Drush to Ansible). See the Architecture document for details.  --Jayden Black (talk) 21:51, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia discourages articles trying to predict future events. See WP:CRYSTAL This may also be WP:TOOSOON. To me, based on current coverage, this is at best a merge, but with the available sourcing the article doesn't pass WP:GNG. At lest a merge can save some of the info, and if the coverage grows with the new enhancements, an article can be revisited. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  00:29, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * If the new release allows hosting of any application, then a redirect might not make sense and only deletion would do. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:53, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Would you kindly explain how "the available sourcing the article doesn't pass WP:GNG"? Most of the links were replaced with third-party/disconnected references as soon as this issue was raised.  If this is still indeed the case, I suppose a merge would make sense for now given that we should represent the current state of things. --Jayden Black (talk) 03:21, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * For instance, one of those connected references was replaced with https://www.openhub.net/p/aegirproject/contributors, which is still a primary source. https://medium.com/devseed/aegir-support-for-multi-server-site-deployment-and-management-for-drupal-2bfec580a330 isn't a reliable source, it's a community source. Then we have connected sources https://www.drupal.org/project/hosting_wordpress and https://service.uoregon.edu/TDClient/KB/ArticleDet?ID=32274. If you would like, I would be happy to do a detailed analysis for you, but I don't have the time nor the energy. The sources are still poor and they don't help the subject meet GNG. Perhaps you can make a clear list of the sources that do, explaining how and why. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:43, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


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