Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aerosucre Flight 4544


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was WP:SNOW keep. (non-admin closure).  " Pepper "  @ 01:10, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Aerosucre Flight 4544

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Cargo plane crashes are very common and usually not notable. WP:NOTNEWS also applies. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:36, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:38, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Colombia-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:38, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:38, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:38, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep:This is a large aircraft and many articles have been published in the newspapers so the article should be kept. Wykx  (talk) 10:55, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: This article is about a fatal aircraft crash, and such crashes are always newsworthy. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 18:00, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep: Commercial aircraft incident involving a fatality, certainly meets WP policy of notability -- Eng. M.Bandara -Talk  18:49, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep: I am even surprised you nominated this for deletion.. crew members died in this crash, involved a hull loss, and was even video taped. It meets all criteria to have a wikipedia page. If you say these cargo crashes are common, then what is the difference between UPS Airlines Flight 6 or National Airlines Flight 102 for example? Just because they involved a 747? The UPS crash only killed two crew members. This accident is most certainly worthy of a wikipedia page. --Martinillo (talk) 19:50, 22 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Snow keep I've said it before and I'll say it again. Lack of deaths ≠ lack of notability. We have a large airliner written off with the deaths of most of the crew. That it was operating a cargo flight is neither here nor there. Mjroots (talk) 20:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - The nom's rationale is nonsensical. Are cargo jet crashes "common" as compared to passenger jet crashes?  Does the nom have the statistics to back up this assumption?  Does that mean that a fatal jet incident is non-notable due to what the payload is?  This AfD is just weird.  The incident does pass WP:GNG. --Oakshade (talk) 21:34, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep It made the international news, even Boeing has released a statement, and like others say, the small number of deaths does not necessarily make it non-notable. If that was the case, then the crash of the demonstration TU-144 would not be talked about today. (Antonio rotten little brat Martin) (what what?}) 01:04, December 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep The deaths combined with the hull loss, and coverage makes this one notable. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:07, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as per all above. What does "very common" mean exactly? Please give us an annual average number, so we can use it for future reference? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:58, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep: Produced no valid or relevant points for deletion... Cargo plane crashes are well documented across Wikipedia, for good reason. This incident is especially notable due to the fact that the events leading to the crash were recorded and well-publicised. It will arguably become an iconic piece of aviation video, thoroughly deserving of a dedicated page for reference. --Roardle (talk) 15:24, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep per above. The article does need a bit of expansion but Deletion is not Cleanup. This was also the second or third aircraft incident in Colombia this year. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 16:21, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Hull loss and casualties make this crash a notable one.--Jetstreamer $Talk$ 23:17, 25 December 2016 (UTC)


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