Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afaratu


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Vanamonde (talk) 09:46, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Afaratu

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What's the point of listing a name when there are no Wikipedia notable people for entries, no places or organizations with the name? AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:23, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete. The corresponding article in Indonesian Wiki (id:Afaratu) has a very similar description. It includes a list of 28 people with the surname. Some but not all are supported by evidence of existence, but none by assertion of notability. It looks like a family blog. I would challenge inclusion of that list in English Wiki under WP:NOTDIRECTORY.
 * There is precisely one article in Indonesian Wiki about someone with the surname: id:Lucky Afaratu. It looks like an autobiography, and I very much doubt that it would pass English WP:NBIO. It came as no surprise to find that the principal editor on that article is the same as on the English, Indonesian and Dutch articles about the surname.
 * Of the two sources in the English article, one is a list of people with the name and the other is a blog. Neither is WP:RS. There is nothing better in the Dutch and Indonesian articles.
 * If there are no notable people or organisations with the name, I do not see how the surname can be notable. Fails WP:GNG. Narky Blert (talk) 09:47, 6 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - Simply a definition. If this were to be the standard, we'd have literally hundreds of thousands of articles, each about every last name in existence. Delete as per WP:ISNOT.  Onel 5969  TT me 10:37, 6 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Abstain I'm searching on Google and find https://www.rayapos.com/gantikan-afaratu-lalamafu-siap-berjuang-demi-rakyat-mtb/, http://www.dharapos.com/2016/06/soal-adanya-surat-dpn-pkpi-afaratu-itu.html, http://www.wartamaluku.com/afaratu-dan-noya-terancam-dipecat-dari-pkpi/, https://www.tribun-maluku.com/2013/11/kpk-didesak-tangkap-20-anggota-dprd-dan.html , https://www.opgroeigids.nl/kidsgids/kinderopvang/gastouder/afaratu-i-y, http://onlinekiemtien.work/stiv-afaratu_HZy2L6gKdyzM.html, http://www.malukupost.com/2016/03/pkpi-rekomendasi-fatlolon-utuwaly-maju.html, https://kpu-malukuprov.go.id/25-anggota-dprd-mtb-terpilih/ , http://www.tihulale.com/2015/06/Daftar-Fam-Di-Provinsi-Maluku.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.252.238.169 (talk) 14:48, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

1. Afaratu invites citizen to use coins in a coin-cared campaign with Bank Indonesia of Maluku (http://indonesiabangkit.net/ajak-warga-pakai-uang-logam-bi-perwakilan-maluku-kampanye-peduli-koin/) 2. Chairman of Maluku Protestant Church (GPM) Tionghowa Ethnic Profession in Saumlaki, Joseph Afaratu, stated that this service of thanksgiving is part of the ministry to strengthen togetherness among ethnic Chinese communities in Saumlaki City and West Southeast Maluku Regency in general (https://www.lelemuku.com/2017/09/warga-gpm-tionghoa-di-saumlaki-gelar.html) 3. Alfa Gilberd Afa Ratu from Wai Rejected management (http://pontianak.tribunnews.com/2017/07/29/tahun-ini-wai-rejected-bakal-launching-album-perdana-mereka) 202.62.16.158 (talk) 15:18, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Afaratu in Indonesian Wiki article id:Fam Maluku, These are little links that prove that Afaratu is very famous
 * Those are just random folks with the same family name. There's no indication they are related or any news articles that describe the collective family as notable. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. I specifically addressed the issue of Indonesian Wiki in my !vote.
 * id:Fam Maluku does nothing more than link to id:Afaratu. Wiki is not WP:RS. That link is no evidence of anything (except perhaps for my suspicion that (1) User:ShareMan 15, principal editor on this article, and on the two other-language surname articles, and on id:Lucky Afaratu, and (2) User:202.62.16.158, and (3) a couple of other IP editors in the 202.62 range, may be one and the same). WP:COI could be an issue here. Narky Blert (talk) 20:49, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I always WP:AGF, but somehow or other these contributions made me think of a knitted tubular garment, open at one end, designed for enclosing the lower end of one's leg. Narky Blert (talk) 20:58, 7 April 2018 (UTC)


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