Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afida Turner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. ‑Scottywong | soliloquize _ 06:22, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Afida Turner

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Reality TV contestant (didn't win), tried to success in music and movies, without much success. More a "wannabee" than a celebrity. Credited as guest in some french tabloid talk show, more like a goofy, over the top, D-list celebrity trying to establishing her own fame. You'll find some articles in french websites about her, for sure, but these articles are mostly ironic. To sum up : nothing serious.--Xxxxx (talk) 21:32, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The French article has 79 references! For the rest of your argument, please read WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 23:02, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure, 79 references including her own website, her own Instagram, some blogs, etc. Plus, i never said i don't like her. I just said she had some media coverage (i can't deny that) but nevertheless she doesn't meet criterias for actress, singer, tv reality or TV host. --Xxxxx (talk) 23:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * They include Le Matin, Le Figaro , Le Soir , BFM TV , L'Express . Regards, Comte0 (talk) 00:12, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Once again : yes, there are some references. But did you check her body of work ? Imo, doesn't meet notability standards in movies, music, tv, etc.--Xxxxx (talk) 18:51, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you mean WP:BASIC when talking about notability standards? Regards, Comte0 (talk) 22:54, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: There was two AfD on the French article. The first one was closed in 2010 as Delete, the second one was automatically opened after a deletion review in 2016 and was closed as Keep. More specifically, sources 2013, 2013, 2014, 2014, 2014, 2015, 2015, 2016, 2016 were brought and not challenged. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 19:52, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The sources above make the article pass WP:GNG. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 19:54, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as has significant coverage in French reliable sources such as Le Figaro, Le Matin, L Express and others so that WP:GNG is passed as well as criteria 1 of WP:NMUSIC (only one criteria needed) so deletion is not necessary imv, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:10, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:07, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article itself clearly has a promo/fanpage form. Sources are Imdb, dead links, etc. Quick search turns-up lots of non-RS social media. Agricola44 (talk) 17:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Le Figaro and Le Soir cited above are listed on the Newspaper of record article. Would you mind explaining why you do not consider them RS? Regards, Comte0 (talk) 21:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Put it in the article please...that's what many people read. (Closers are the only ones who are really bound to read the usual walls that crop-up at these AfDs.) That said, I looked (at one from Le Figaro), but I don't read French. I suspect that it is promo, since it lists all her social media outlets, but perhaps you could explain. I'm certainly open to changing positions if conclusive argument of notability is present. I just don't see it at the moment (again, perhaps because I don't read French.) Thx, Agricola44 (talk) 13:21, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. I will summarize these articles for you. Le Figaro TV : the former reality TV candidate talks about his miscarriage and her ex-future projects (never materialized). Franceinfo and Le Nouvel Obs : "Afida Turner ejected from the Cannes Festival red carpet. The former reality TV candidate was spurned by the security". Le Matin : interview in which she confirms that she has no record company and that her last album is only available on Youtube... Le Soir : she was banned from a network because she showed her sex live on tv. L'Express : Afida Turner accuses Beyoncé of plagiarism (okay, i must confess this one is my favorite...).

--Xxxxx (talk) 18:13, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. The refs located above indicate she is notable. Szzuk (talk) 18:23, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The references in French clearly establish notability. Pichpich (talk) 21:37, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


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