Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/African American Street Gangs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. v/r - TP 22:18, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

African American Street Gangs

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Wikipedia currently has a general article on this subject, Gangs in the United States. Not sure if a separate article is needed for African American gangs. In addition, this is unsourced and looks very much like original research. If there is anything worth keeping in this article, it should be merged to the main article. I really don't see anything here worth keeping, so Delete. Safiel (talk) 01:12, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 17:17, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 17:18, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * weak keep but move and consolidate in Street gangs. The articles is primarily about the "crips" a note worth topic and should be renamed accordingly. The present article heading might reflect bias. If kept the article will require further work regarding second source references.--User:Warrior777 (talk) 07:44, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with street gangs article. The article doesn't offer much to sustain itself as an individual article, it would read better part of the African American section of street gangs. SwisterTwister (talk) 03:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete There are absolutely no reliable sources on the 'article' and it seems to throw a bunch of rumors and innuendos throughout the page with no way to verify anything. This page should have been deleted a long time ago. Dave Dial (talk) 04:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:33, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Not up to WP standards. This is such a sensitive topic that any information has to be from really reliable sources (that is more than just normal WP "reliable sources") and presented in a serious, mature way. Steve Dufour (talk) 01:51, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Given the importance of race in gang politics I could see a reason for these articles, but they would have to be meticulously sourced and handled delicately. There are important reasons that african-american gangs are different from (and often violently opposed to), for instance, hispanic gangs. HominidMachinae (talk) 03:26, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is a danger that if the articles seem to be written from inside the gang culture that could seem to be glamorizing the life style, or presenting negative stereotypes of all minority group members, or both at the same time. Steve Dufour (talk) 03:30, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep This topic is the central pillar in contemporary US gang structure. Yes, presently seems to have been authored by mainly urban (diverse?) people. Needs to be upgraded with references & verified information. Numerti (talk) 05:09, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep, now that it has been restructured and referenced. The page now makes better sense, with a restructuring and references added. Numerti (talk) 06:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - on the grounds that this represents a content fork and original essay. Carrite (talk) 06:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.