Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AfterWorld (virtual world) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. WP:SNOW  MBisanz  talk 00:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

AfterWorld (virtual world)
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Non-notable MMORPG video game with little or no media coverage (Google news archive searches—here and here). Created by a single-purpose account. The game's Beta release is scheduled for "the end of 2009" i.e. the game's not even finished yet. Fails WP:NOTE. TheJazzDalek (talk) 12:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions.  —TheJazzDalek (talk) 12:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MLauba (talk) 12:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MLauba (talk) 12:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi guys. I created the article. It is not "my game" and I have nothing to gain by its publication. I just happen to know that thousands of people play it every day and that it can be considered "Beta" because they are not wiping some items upon release. This will eventually be a mainstream game...all that remains is a few months. Please do not be so hasty to delete this inoffensive, important article. Thank you very much. Epicahab (talk) 22:36, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:V. I spent the morning trying to find usable reliable sources and came up empty. Not enough verifiable third party mentions to allow for a neutral article. I'd also vote against userification this time considering the article re-creation did not address the notability issue in the first place. Not opposed to recreation after beta release, if and when it gets significant 3rd-party coverage. MLauba (talk) 12:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:N, WP:V, WP:CRYSTAL and possibly WP:SPAM. -Senseless!... says you, says me 12:37, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per GNG, CRYSTAL. However, I'm okay with userfication as long as the user is told to come to DrV before restoring (and pointed at WP:N and WP:RS). Last time he was told to take back to mainspace whenever.  Probably worked out to be poor advice. Hobit (talk) 13:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:V WP:SPAM & WP:CRYSTAL cf38  talk  15:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. G11able, but I'd rather see it deleted outright: The real-cash economy involves the virtual currency "AWD" or AfterWorld Dollars. These can be obtained from other players or by donating cash crosses the line into promotion, in my mind. Jclemens (talk) 16:52, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Play our game and give us money! – S P _ M → I would like to solve the puzzle... MuZemike 18:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * We understand you mean well but unless anyone comes up with reliable sources demonstrating that there is decent third-party coverage of the game at present, the fact is that there shouldn't be an article on it on wikipedia until it does become a mainstream game. It doesn't even have to become mainstream, niche is enough. But it needs independant coverage for that. It's simply too early for an article. MLauba (talk) 23:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete violates WP:NN; WP:CRYSTAL; WP:SPAM --Mhking (talk) 00:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails inclusion criteria as per WP:NOTE. No reliable sources.--Sloane (talk) 04:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


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